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It's still very possible to do. | ||
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On August 15 2013 22:50 TheYango wrote: This is wrong. Only the movement speed from Boots doesn't stack with each other, and the %MS boosts from Yasha-based items. Be nice, all of us were like this at some point. Just for some of us it's been so long since we were that new to DotA that we've forgotten. With Yasha based do you also mean drums? I always thought drums and other % ms does not stack and that was the reason I didn´t like it on heroes like pl or gyro where I would go for a manta style later on because I thought the drums 5 % where wasted. Is that not the case? | ||
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On August 27 2013 21:45 Klonere wrote: or r/dota2smut not that i've visited there or anything Well that escalated quickly. Although that'd be pretty "inclusive", so to speak, if it was canon. On August 27 2013 22:05 EnumaAvalon wrote: I tried randoming vs bots and "humans". I liked Tree since I can smash face and he isn't mana dependent. I guess I can't farm very well yet so supports with a lot of bursts or good disables for me. Mek holders, ranged preferably. I literally recommend Lina to everyone starting to play or starting to play again and wanting to practice. She has a bit of everything. - She can play virtually any position anywhere. You can play her as a ganker, as a ward-bitch support, a mek-holding support, she can semi-carry if she gets some farm; you can put her mid or safelane or offlane with care. - Ranged and with an awful attack animation. This is good for learning because if you can get comfortable last hitting with Lina you should be able to last hit with just about anything. Being thrown in at the deep end forces you to learn very quickly. - Variety of abilities. One AoE nuke, one AoE stun that requires practice timing and aiming, one single-target super nuke, plus a passive that interacts with her active abilities. With care you can use her stun as a mini-initiation ability (not as good as something like RP or Ravage but its got a decent little area of effect). Basically just gives a nice broad range of things to practice and play with all in one fiery redheaded package. And yes I'm aware of how I'm sounding now. X-D | ||
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If you have both maelstrom and basher, which has a higher priority to proc? | ||
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Also for future reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255901 | ||
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on melee both but thats how it works in Wc3 dota, I would bet that both works just fine in dota2 | ||
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On August 27 2013 22:48 Unleashing wrote: Basher isn't an orb so they can proc together. Also for future reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255901 Oh! I thought it will be in dota 2 general -_- thanks! | ||
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On August 27 2013 22:36 -Celestial- wrote: Well that escalated quickly. Although that'd be pretty "inclusive", so to speak, if it was canon. I literally recommend Lina to everyone starting to play or starting to play again and wanting to practice. She has a bit of everything. - She can play virtually any position anywhere. You can play her as a ganker, as a ward-bitch support, a mek-holding support, she can semi-carry if she gets some farm; you can put her mid or safelane or offlane with care. - Ranged and with an awful attack animation. This is good for learning because if you can get comfortable last hitting with Lina you should be able to last hit with just about anything. Being thrown in at the deep end forces you to learn very quickly. - Variety of abilities. One AoE nuke, one AoE stun that requires practice timing and aiming, one single-target super nuke, plus a passive that interacts with her active abilities. With care you can use her stun as a mini-initiation ability (not as good as something like RP or Ravage but its got a decent little area of effect). Basically just gives a nice broad range of things to practice and play with all in one fiery redheaded package. And yes I'm aware of how I'm sounding now. X-D I lol'ed. Thanks! I've been pretty okay on Lion which I think does similarly to Lina minus the creep clearing ability. So I guess I'll try Lina soon. Thank you! Also, you're almost at a 1000 posts! GJ! | ||
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On August 27 2013 22:53 EnumaAvalon wrote: I lol'ed. Thanks! I've been pretty okay on Lion which I think does similarly to Lina minus the creep clearing ability. So I guess I'll try Lina soon. Thank you! Also, you're almost at a 1000 posts! GJ! Lion is good, I like using him as a support but he's a little..."too good" for learning, I guess, in my opinion anyway. With a damaging stun, a disable and an absurdly good nuke he's got a lot of power there and his other ability makes managing your mana pool quite trivial. Its a bit like Lich in that respect. A lot of people recommend learning on Lich but I'm not a fan. His ability to deny creeps and regain mana teaches bad habits about controlling a lane and managing your mana. And in a teamfight literally all you need to do is press R from a distance onto the enemy in the middle of the pack and you're basically done with your effectiveness. Oh sure you can hit your other abilities but most of it comes from that one big ult which means you're not forced to really learn how to teamfight properly either. | ||
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On August 27 2013 22:34 Aikin wrote: With Yasha based do you also mean drums? I always thought drums and other % ms does not stack and that was the reason I didn´t like it on heroes like pl or gyro where I would go for a manta style later on because I thought the drums 5 % where wasted. Is that not the case? http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Movement_speed o_O I so didn´t know that. Racecar builds inc. | ||
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On August 27 2013 23:15 Kreb wrote: Heh, my first two heroes were Lina and Lion too. I just think they're good heroes because you can make "big plays" (or thats what you're thinking you're doing anyway) even if you're completely new to dota. Man i felt like such a badass zapping people with finger of death and laguna blade. Pew pew. They probably had very little idea what they were facing (like me) but it was sure fun anyway. My third hero (think it was Leshrac) felt so boring in comparison! I tended to mix up a lot, trying different stuff, but broadly speaking my first few heroes in terms of playing them semi-regular went something like: Lina > Lanaya > Windrunner After that it basically became totally inconsistent and just playing anything. My very first two games were Mirana and then Luna, then I picked Lina for the first time and went 15/6/10 and, despite the game being a loss, I went "YEP I LIKE THIS ONE". Seventh game ever was Lone Druid...that went about as well as you'd expect. >_> | ||
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That said I certainly think he's a boring hero to play after two or three games of that, and newbies should quickly switch to other more engaging heroes such as Lion/Lina/etc. | ||
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On August 27 2013 22:16 EnumaAvalon wrote: Oh cool. The mechanics in DotA 2 and WC3 DotA are the same but I can't seem to replicate my old stuff to the new game. Maybe I'm getting too slow or just because, everything is so shiny. Before I could go Eul's on Shadow Shaman, ward trap the hero and if my 6 charges run out, I can upgrade it into a Ginsoo's. Now, I can't seem to ward trap heroes. Use shackle -> shift queue wards = perfect ward trap. | ||
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On August 27 2013 23:38 Firebolt145 wrote: Lanaya is a horrible hero for newbies. She's incredibly strong but it requires you to know so much about the game to actually make use of her. Oh god yes, she's awful to learn to play on. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Don't think anyone was actually recommending her though...unless I missed something? On August 27 2013 23:21 Aikin wrote: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Movement_speed o_O I so didn´t know that. Racecar builds inc. BoT, Eul's, Manta, Drums? Edit: Oh wow I just discovered after more than a thousand hours of DOTA2 that Windrunner's Windrun slows nearby enemies? Haha, learn something new every day. | ||
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On August 27 2013 23:47 BlitzerSC wrote: Use shackle -> shift queue wards = perfect ward trap. Does that really work for all sizes of heroes? I've read it in a forum just recently but since I just found that wards are more fragile now than they used to... Well escaping is easier. | ||
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