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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 26 2013 11:30 GMT
#74061
On August 26 2013 20:23 cecek wrote:
Just discovered a great combo. Orchid on skeleton king. You Orchid, stun and right before the silence wears off you mortal strike. It's a ton of burst, because you take away 20% of the heroes hp and amplify it by the orchid burn! Also, you'll never run out of mana, so you can use the stun way more often and still have mana for ultimate!

SICK
and when do you buy armlet/bkb/ac ?
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GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 11:32:04
August 26 2013 11:31 GMT
#74062
On August 26 2013 20:23 cecek wrote:
Just discovered a great combo. Orchid on skeleton king. You Orchid, stun and right before the silence wears off you mortal strike. It's a ton of burst, because you take away 20% of the heroes hp and amplify it by the orchid burn! Also, you'll never run out of mana, so you can use the stun way more often and still have mana for ultimate!


Shouldn't the Mortal Strike burst not count towards the Orchid damage amp since it's HP removal (i.e. doesn't count as damage)?

Maledict would work though.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 26 2013 11:42 GMT
#74063
Yup, doesn't work with orchid(Mortal strike that is).
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
August 26 2013 11:46 GMT
#74064
HP removal doesn't count as damage, so it shouldn't be adding to Orchid Burn damage.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 26 2013 11:57 GMT
#74065
On August 26 2013 14:37 TheYango wrote:
You have to keep in mind that [A] is a team for whom 6.78 fits their natural playstyle very well. Obviously they are a strong team that could adapt to the playstyle of any version, but I feel that the changes in 6.78 shifted the game toward a playstyle that they are far more comfortable with than prior versions.

Weren't people saying the same thing in 6.77 ? "Alliance got hit so much by the patch, they'll fall apart" (when 6.78 got released)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 26 2013 12:00 GMT
#74066
People said that because they thought Bulldog was the core to the teams success so LD being hit was overall bad for the team. They wrongly assessed the strengths of Alliance so misinterpreted how the patch would effect them.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 26 2013 12:03 GMT
#74067
On August 26 2013 20:23 cecek wrote:
Just discovered a great combo. Orchid on skeleton king. You Orchid, stun and right before the silence wears off you mortal strike. It's a ton of burst, because you take away 20% of the heroes hp and amplify it by the orchid burn! Also, you'll never run out of mana, so you can use the stun way more often and still have mana for ultimate!

Also he needs the atk speed
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 26 2013 12:03 GMT
#74068
A big part of it was just that Bulldog improved tenfold from 6.77 to TI3 so the patch "hurting" Alliance was mitigated by their worst hit player making up for it.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
tapes
Profile Joined January 2013
487 Posts
August 26 2013 12:09 GMT
#74069
I don't think Alliance is as reliant on the meta as people make it out to be. They just play a lot.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 26 2013 12:13 GMT
#74070
i don't think Alliance will be as dominant post TI, because Na'vi exposed that they aren't nearly as strong without Akke and EGM on their favored supports
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 26 2013 12:20 GMT
#74071
On August 26 2013 21:13 Shaella wrote:
i don't think Alliance will be as dominant post TI, because Na'vi exposed that they aren't nearly as strong without Akke and EGM on their favored supports

strong enough to win ti3
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
August 26 2013 12:42 GMT
#74072
On August 26 2013 21:20 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 21:13 Shaella wrote:
i don't think Alliance will be as dominant post TI, because Na'vi exposed that they aren't nearly as strong without Akke and EGM on their favored supports

strong enough to win ti3


Not when their supports were banned. They won when Na'Vi banned high-valued roles 1-3, because Alliance's 1-3 players had a larger range of played heroes (yes, even Bulldog).
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
August 26 2013 13:04 GMT
#74073
TIME TO PLAY SOME BATRIDER
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 26 2013 13:06 GMT
#74074
I think i stopped talking bad on bulldog since late march, the dude really delivered big time since they were stabilized for 6.78, and if you watched his stream, his mechanics on his heroes that he needs to be good at are so damn refined and i can barely see any 'bad habit' from him (that hand speed on buying detection!!) compared to some players who have been playing the game for ages. I'd guess that [A] spent quite some effort on analyzing their replays when they were first get together as a team for the first few months at least.

I have no doubt if [A] actually worked harder than chinese teams lol. From what i see is that chinese supports really need to put some work on analyzing some replays of the opponents, they keep getting screwed by the warding/anti-warding during early game in TI3.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 26 2013 13:11 GMT
#74075
On August 26 2013 20:28 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 19:52 Targe wrote:
Does 5 stacking still effect your MMR? Or is it just when you play solo?

Any win affects your MMR, assuming your team is not insanely favored to a point where you gain +0.

Just feels like im not getting anywhere though damn it. I wanted an excuse.
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
August 26 2013 13:16 GMT
#74076
duel mid bane+ ogre magi is a hard fucking lane when both bane and ogre have random gold...... soul ring first bane.... last hitting with 20 damage is hard, even with storms passive, then he turned level 3. Why isnt bane picked more mid to make noobs like me sad..
Flash Fan!
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 13:21:06
August 26 2013 13:19 GMT
#74077
TBH Bulldog can play any heroes if he want it lol (base on his stream lol). It just that, when [A] pick LD, it is usually for him. And the stigma stays on for team benefit, when the oppo ban LD, he can play something else.

On August 26 2013 22:16 r_con wrote:
duel mid bane+ ogre magi is a hard fucking lane when both bane and ogre have random gold...... soul ring first bane.... last hitting with 20 damage is hard, even with storms passive, then he turned level 3. Why isnt bane picked more mid to make noobs like me sad..


spam remnant and play like a sissy till you hit six faster than dual mid
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#74078
I die with an Aegis. Enemy Silencer Global Silences when I spawn, I take a bunch of damage, so I BKB -> Time lapse...back to the 0 hp I had before dying. I barely escape, but then send my bugs in on the way out, hitting a Viper. His debuff hits me every time my bug attacks him, and I die.

T_T
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 26 2013 13:32 GMT
#74079
On August 26 2013 22:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
I die with an Aegis. Enemy Silencer Global Silences when I spawn, I take a bunch of damage, so I BKB -> Time lapse...back to the 0 hp I had before dying. I barely escape, but then send my bugs in on the way out, hitting a Viper. His debuff hits me every time my bug attacks him, and I die.

T_T

that's some next level feeding
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 26 2013 13:51 GMT
#74080
On August 26 2013 22:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
I die with an Aegis. Enemy Silencer Global Silences when I spawn, I take a bunch of damage, so I BKB -> Time lapse...back to the 0 hp I had before dying. I barely escape, but then send my bugs in on the way out, hitting a Viper. His debuff hits me every time my bug attacks him, and I die.

T_T


Well Played!

Seriously though thats just impressive.
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