General Discussion - Page 3537

On August 07 2013 23:20 TheSubtleArt wrote:
I love playing spirit breaker, but i think playing such an ez mode heroes made me worse at dota

On August 07 2013 21:53 Talron wrote:

Manliest 1v1, which isn't including bears or Axe.

And for some actual DotA discussion: So, can anyone tell, why solomid Alchs don't abuse ancient stacking, when playing radiant? You can simply use acid spray up the cliff at the respective stack times, while still getting the lane creeps gold / exp. I highly doubt it's just because the camp can be blocked, because that would mean, the opponents have just one ward at the very start, which would actually grant them decent vision, leaving them wide open for any incoming ganks until the wards in shop have been refreshed.

On August 07 2013 23:40 SkelA wrote:


This hero is broken in pubs. Whenever I have it as an ally or enemy I havent seen it lose in recent history with the exeption of one game where i played as warlock and he kinda stoped being relevant in mid game where we decided to 5 man all the time.

On August 07 2013 23:40 SkelA wrote:


This hero is broken in pubs. Whenever I have it as an ally or enemy I havent seen it lose in recent history with the exeption of one game where i played as warlock and he kinda stoped being relevant in mid game where we decided to 5 man all the time.

On August 07 2013 14:37 pedrlz wrote:

i have like 0% winrate with spectre (and void), tell me your secrets...

If i'm playing with AM/PL/Morph/Naga/etc is soo much easy to catch up in farm (basically because I almost never win my lane playing with somekind of hardcarry, lgd style), but with void and spectre is sooo hard, I don't know why, maybe because they are slow so I can't get at jungle before my team steal the neutrals

On August 08 2013 00:07 Grettin wrote:
I wonder what these mass disconnects are. I'm the only one in my game that hasn't disconnected yet.

On August 08 2013 00:11 Plansix wrote:

I'm gonig to blame Blizzard, because its what we do on TL. This is why we need LAN.

(Its likely due to TI3 and them working on the servers)

On August 07 2013 21:08 Numy wrote:


Interesting. Thought that only happens with Ursa camps.

On August 08 2013 00:23 Sbrubbles wrote:


Sorry to tell you, but the technology for LAN isn't there yet.

On August 07 2013 19:34 Mataza wrote:
When you go RoB first on NP you can jungle faster.

Had a few tests and mountain prophet jungling is a bit faster than non RoB jungling. And mountain prophet is pretty retarded, if the big camp spawns trolls you're dead.
Without RoB first or at least early you will jungle slower because you have to go back to base or lose your treants too fast.

On August 08 2013 00:39 Mataza wrote:

If you want to build your Nature Prophet jungling exclusively after a midas rush, feel free to do so.
There are other objectives, like getting a fast lvl 6, or having both the hp and mana to do something besides jungling in the first 5 minutes.

On August 07 2013 23:48 Aceace wrote:


I'll advice on spec. %61 wr 4.6 KDA

Skill build:
1(3)-3(1)-2-2-2-4-2 or
1(3)-3(1)-1-2-1-4-1

First build depends on your teammates disable options. If your teammates manage to stun-slow etc. on enemies even your illusions can kill them at level 6-10
Second build is for solo kills. If you're playing with low disable teammates you need slow.
Don't increase your ulti at lvl 11. Wait for lvl 14. Increase dispersion first. Haunt scales very bad. (1 second increase only.)

Items:
Never ever buy a damn Vg while playing spec. NEVER! Vanguard doesn't offer anything to Spectre. Vg sucks.
You can use recommended items for start (qb+ branchesx3+tango+pot) but i prefer start with slippers instead of qb. With 1 slipper you can go RoA or PMS faster. If you're fighting against a heavy harrass based lane go PMS if you're farming freely go RoA.

I prefer Phase+RoA+Drum+Wand+OoV on spectre. Its extremely mid game focused build. This build gives +15 allstats, +3 agi, +36 damage at the cost of only 5k. This build is not slot efficient but extremely cost efficient. Bonus stats work on your illusions too. When you get enough gold for pricey items go for Diffusal-Hot-Manta.. (Don't forget to sell your OoV

You can go oldschool radiance build too but i really don't like it. Radiance work on illusions but farming 5k gold for only radiance isn't best option on pubs.

Playstyle;

Go easy lane. After level 7 (Maybe 6.) use your ulti every teamfight and teleport there. Your ulti works like Wisp ulti. Relocate when team fights or ganks happens. And get kills. Otherwise farm freely. If your team gives you enough defensive vision with wards you can farm safely.

On August 08 2013 01:43 Erasme wrote:


Meh. Vanguard can be okay, always max dagger first, 1point in dispersion is ok if you have trouble in lane but i'd rather max dagger and desolate asap. I'm not a fan of RoA on spectre tho.

On August 08 2013 00:47 Plansix wrote:

Oh its there, we have just proven we can't be trusted.

On August 08 2013 02:19 TheYango wrote:
Vanguard on Spectre is ok as a situational pickup. The thing about that hero is that you're often playing from behind early, but at the same time you are not a strong teamfight hero until you have your first major item, so it's not all that unheard of to be forced into the kind of shitty situation where you'd get Vanguard.

Tranquils just feel really bad to have on that hero after the nerf to Illusion Tranquil MS, because having Illusions that always have disabled Tranquils feels like it hurt's your ult's effectiveness a lot. In an ideal situation you'd get an Urn and go get kills, hold the casual RoH, or just skip regen items and jump straight into combat stuff, but it's not always the case that the game makes any of those better options than just finishing the Vanguard.