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Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 03:59:15
August 02 2013 03:58 GMT
#69901
On August 02 2013 12:55 Najda wrote:
Who's Terrorblade?


Illidan - Soulkeeper - Terrorblade

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Soul_Keeper
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
August 02 2013 03:59 GMT
#69902
On August 02 2013 12:49 Shake n Blake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 10:15 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:26 crms wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:23 Comeh wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:18 Shake n Blake wrote:
So the patch this week was quite underwhelming to say the least. Are we even gonna see Abaddon and Elder Titan enabled in captains mode for TI3? It makes absolutely no sense for them not to be in the draft pool.

No, absolutely won't get added to CM for TI3.

It makes sense since no tournament has had either of these heroes, so no teams are practiced with them. I dont think they want any sort of cheesy meta-shift during TI3.



that's the curve ball to make it exciting. ADAPT OR DIE!


"WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BITCHES" -gaben


That would be amazing. I'd fly to Seattle to see that.

But seriously if you were honestly expecting any major changes outside of minor bug-fixes in the lead-up to TI3 then you're kidding yourself.


Not adding Abaddon to CM I understand, but Elder Titan has been in Dota 2 since early May. Teams have had 3 months to practice with him and nobody can seriously argue that adding him to CM would shake up the meta remotely as much as 6.78 did. Ofc it's too late now but with 4(ish) heroes missing from Dota 2's CM mode that are enabled in Dota 1's CM mode, it just doesn't feel like an entirely valid tournament without those heroes. ( Even if they're not picked or banned, they could possibly influence which heroes are picked or banned simply by being in the pool. If you're wondering which 4 heroes I'm referring to, they are Elder Titan, Abaddon, Legion Commander & Terrorblade. I'm excluding Techies for obvious reasons . . . .)

In terms of Valve's priority however, cosmetics > all other content. Understandable since Valve still needs to make money after all, as much as the people from this forum hate to admit hahaha: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=100261

Hopefully by TI4 we'll have the last ten heroes ported over.


Well Legion and Terrorblade aren't even in the game so adding them to -CM before the International would be pretty weird. Don't see how this makes the tournament less valid, every team has the same hero pool and its the same as every other tournament in recent DotA 2 history (unless those were all invalid tournaments as well...)
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2013 03:59 GMT
#69903
On August 02 2013 12:49 Shake n Blake wrote:
Not adding Abaddon to CM I understand, but Elder Titan has been in Dota 2 since early May. Teams have had 3 months to practice with him and nobody can seriously argue that adding him to CM would shake up the meta remotely as much as 6.78 did.

You're assuming that the teams practice with a hero that's not in -CM, which they probably don't.

Also a quick scan of the known bugs list would tell you that there are enough major bugs with the hero for him not to be included in -CM.
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Shake n Blake
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 04:05:24
August 02 2013 04:00 GMT
#69904
On August 02 2013 12:55 Najda wrote:
Who's Terrorblade?


http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Soul_Keeper

Also known as Soul Keeper. Basically he's a hard carry who will win any 1v1 man fight late game thanks to his ultimate. (Barring perhaps versus Doom or Void.)

Also Yango could you possibly post said link to list of major bugs surrounding Elder Titan? You'd think Valve would have them all fixed by now if they were serious . . . .
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 02 2013 04:05 GMT
#69905
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=13563

Search for "Elder Titan".
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Shake n Blake
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 04:22:11
August 02 2013 04:21 GMT
#69906
On August 02 2013 12:59 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 12:49 Shake n Blake wrote:
On August 02 2013 10:15 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:26 crms wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:23 Comeh wrote:
On August 02 2013 09:18 Shake n Blake wrote:
So the patch this week was quite underwhelming to say the least. Are we even gonna see Abaddon and Elder Titan enabled in captains mode for TI3? It makes absolutely no sense for them not to be in the draft pool.

No, absolutely won't get added to CM for TI3.

It makes sense since no tournament has had either of these heroes, so no teams are practiced with them. I dont think they want any sort of cheesy meta-shift during TI3.



that's the curve ball to make it exciting. ADAPT OR DIE!


"WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BITCHES" -gaben


That would be amazing. I'd fly to Seattle to see that.

But seriously if you were honestly expecting any major changes outside of minor bug-fixes in the lead-up to TI3 then you're kidding yourself.


Not adding Abaddon to CM I understand, but Elder Titan has been in Dota 2 since early May. Teams have had 3 months to practice with him and nobody can seriously argue that adding him to CM would shake up the meta remotely as much as 6.78 did. Ofc it's too late now but with 4(ish) heroes missing from Dota 2's CM mode that are enabled in Dota 1's CM mode, it just doesn't feel like an entirely valid tournament without those heroes. ( Even if they're not picked or banned, they could possibly influence which heroes are picked or banned simply by being in the pool. If you're wondering which 4 heroes I'm referring to, they are Elder Titan, Abaddon, Legion Commander & Terrorblade. I'm excluding Techies for obvious reasons . . . .)

In terms of Valve's priority however, cosmetics > all other content. Understandable since Valve still needs to make money after all, as much as the people from this forum hate to admit hahaha: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=100261

Hopefully by TI4 we'll have the last ten heroes ported over.


Well Legion and Terrorblade aren't even in the game so adding them to -CM before the International would be pretty weird. Don't see how this makes the tournament less valid, every team has the same hero pool and its the same as every other tournament in recent DotA 2 history (unless those were all invalid tournaments as well...)


In theory if Valve had continued to release heroes as consistently as they did prior to TI2 Legion and Terrorblade would be in Dota 2 in time for TI3, but obviously that's no longer feasible. My point was that, as the successor to Dota 1, Dota 2's biggest tournament of the year should ideally allow players access to all the CM heroes by now. For example, imagine how different TI1 would've been if Gyrocopter, Lifestealer, Rubick, Nyx Assassin, KoTL, Lone Druid and especially Lycan (prior to his nerfs) had been available for play in CM mode prior to the actual tournament.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 02 2013 04:27 GMT
#69907
Does anyone know what the console command is to auto spectate the games for tomorrow?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 02 2013 04:38 GMT
#69908
On August 02 2013 13:27 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Does anyone know what the console command is to auto spectate the games for tomorrow?

dota_spectator_auto_spectate_games 65006
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 02 2013 04:43 GMT
#69909
On August 02 2013 13:27 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Does anyone know what the console command is to auto spectate the games for tomorrow?

what does auto spectate do?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 02 2013 04:58 GMT
#69910
On August 02 2013 13:43 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 13:27 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Does anyone know what the console command is to auto spectate the games for tomorrow?

what does auto spectate do?

you will join games automatically rather than having to spectate games

tbh it's not that useful unless you are sleeping through the games and just want the item drops

no point for that either since the chance will be so astronomically low anyway with so many in-game spectators

and you shouldn't sleep through the games anyway.. for ESPORTS
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 05:07:54
August 02 2013 05:03 GMT
#69911
Network down atm? Cant connect for 10 mins already and I've restarted the comp

Edit: Nvm it is down
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
August 02 2013 05:10 GMT
#69912
On August 02 2013 14:03 KezseN wrote:
Network down atm? Cant connect for 10 mins already and I've restarted the comp

Edit: Nvm it is down


Down for me. Just won an epic game which I'm pretty sure has been eaten by the void as well.

I wish Valve would have somewhere you can check. It goes down so often.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
August 02 2013 05:14 GMT
#69913
its doown donno how long but its down
new patch gg
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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
August 02 2013 05:19 GMT
#69914
How does one counter spirit breaker in pubs? He just charges like there's no tomorrow and bashes and ultis, and there's nothing I can do. I've found that invoker works pretty well against him, but what else?
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 02 2013 05:32 GMT
#69915
On August 02 2013 14:19 Bunn wrote:
How does one counter spirit breaker in pubs? He just charges like there's no tomorrow and bashes and ultis, and there's nothing I can do. I've found that invoker works pretty well against him, but what else?


Wards, TP's, map awareness, team communication, fast heroes. If you know he is coming u can often get somewhere safe via TP or a speedy hero. Just being aware that he is missing is important mid game. Your teammates should tell you if they see him charging as well. Thats probably why he is only good in pubs. Pretty basic stuff like teamwork is pretty effective vs him.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
Shake n Blake
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada159 Posts
August 02 2013 05:34 GMT
#69916
On August 02 2013 14:19 Bunn wrote:
How does one counter spirit breaker in pubs? He just charges like there's no tomorrow and bashes and ultis, and there's nothing I can do. I've found that invoker works pretty well against him, but what else?


Your best option is to simply ensure wards are up on the top and bottom river locations. This should give you warning of when he's charging one of the lanes, although if he uses smoke of deceit before hand there is very little you can do! (Support SB has been quite deadly in the competitive scene lately.)

have lots of stuns may buy you precious moments to interrupt his charge, or at the very least prevent him from ulting your teammate after he charges. (Sven/DK & Skywrath Mage can blow him up if he charges one of your teammates, but Skywrath alone is very vulnerable to SB ganks since his silence doesnt stop the charge.)
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 02 2013 05:35 GMT
#69917
On August 02 2013 14:19 Bunn wrote:
How does one counter spirit breaker in pubs? He just charges like there's no tomorrow and bashes and ultis, and there's nothing I can do. I've found that invoker works pretty well against him, but what else?


From my experience supports with instant lockdown like Rubick lift can do okay if you have time to react to his charge, he doesn't do much early on if you lift him during charge.

Abaddon also seemed decent since he can negate a lot of SB's burst on allies, tanky heroes in general might be good.

And obviously good ward coverage and tower hugging when he is missing won't hurt.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 02 2013 05:38 GMT
#69918
http://www.twitch.tv/dotademon

4k viewers for nhii to kiss demon on the lips.

pls guys.
Skol
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
August 02 2013 05:38 GMT
#69919
On August 02 2013 14:19 Bunn wrote:
How does one counter spirit breaker in pubs? He just charges like there's no tomorrow and bashes and ultis, and there's nothing I can do. I've found that invoker works pretty well against him, but what else?


Any hero with an instant stun/hex is good for stopping the charge. Rubick, Lion, Rhasta come to mind. If you're quick about it, disruption skills like OD's or SD's on the right target can help too. Cogs do not stop charge. If you suspect you're getting charged, don't stand too close to a treeline or you won't have time to react. Stick with allies who also have stuns or nukes. Basically if you can't stop him solo, don't appear anywhere on the map without backup nearby.

He'll probably get a bkb at some point, so if you don't have a beastmaster or other superior magic stuns, prepare to invest in a ghost scepter.
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jeefzors
Profile Joined March 2011
United States120 Posts
August 02 2013 05:39 GMT
#69920
servers back up
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