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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 30 2013 15:53 GMT
#69261
On July 31 2013 00:51 Tunga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 23:11 teapoted wrote:
So apparently what's happening is since the flights are full they're just letting people on the next flight, making that flight overbooked.



So is this whole problem an airline issue or a Valve issue?

Valve is overbooking european airline flights ofc
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 30 2013 15:53 GMT
#69262
On July 31 2013 00:51 Tunga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 23:11 teapoted wrote:
So apparently what's happening is since the flights are full they're just letting people on the next flight, making that flight overbooked.

https://twitter.com/AdmiralBulldog/status/362207560947859456


So is this whole problem an airline issue or a Valve issue?


Both! Depending whether Valve or the team used a shit Airline to fly teams over!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 30 2013 15:57 GMT
#69263
The real question is: why the fuck is every team stopping at Amsterdam ?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 30 2013 15:58 GMT
#69264
On July 31 2013 00:57 BlitzerSC wrote:
The real question is: why the fuck is every team stopping at Amsterdam ?


Cheaper flights with stop-overs.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 30 2013 16:00 GMT
#69265
mh i had that once but the airline didnt just not let them fly but asked the people and offered them a free night at a hotel +expenses for flying the next day oO
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:03:52
July 30 2013 16:01 GMT
#69266
Heathrow too posh. true story.

i also got 3 aui cards in total, the feeling was very complicated indeed.

i am also having a hard time getting used to my infested terran icon
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:15:05
July 30 2013 16:14 GMT
#69267
On July 31 2013 01:00 teddyoojo wrote:
mh i had that once but the airline didnt just not let them fly but asked the people and offered them a free night at a hotel +expenses for flying the next day oO
Yeah the only times I've seen flights overbooked the airline just gives you a bunch of free shit to not fly and the people who really need to still will get through.
Once you Goblak...
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#69268
On July 31 2013 00:51 Tunga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 23:11 teapoted wrote:
So apparently what's happening is since the flights are full they're just letting people on the next flight, making that flight overbooked.

https://twitter.com/AdmiralBulldog/status/362207560947859456


So is this whole problem an airline issue or a Valve issue?


In the US, some domestic flights are purposely overbooked to account for no-shows, aka maximizing the chance that the plane is leaving with someone in every single seat. Now obviously that can lead to issues if everyone who bought a ticket does show up or if there are unexpected people from previous flights needing to be on the plane.

Not sure if international flights and/or European carriers do the same practice.
Get it by your hands...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:37:33
July 30 2013 16:33 GMT
#69269
On July 31 2013 01:25 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 00:51 Tunga wrote:
On July 30 2013 23:11 teapoted wrote:
So apparently what's happening is since the flights are full they're just letting people on the next flight, making that flight overbooked.

https://twitter.com/AdmiralBulldog/status/362207560947859456


So is this whole problem an airline issue or a Valve issue?


In the US, some domestic flights are purposely overbooked to account for no-shows, aka maximizing the chance that the plane is leaving with someone in every single seat. Now obviously that can lead to issues if everyone who bought a ticket does show up or if there are unexpected people from previous flights needing to be on the plane.

Not sure if international flights and/or European carriers do the same practice.
Well there's no reason a flight should have been overbooked unless it's done on purpose by the carrier.

There is no technical reason why it would be difficult to make sure you don't oversell tickets. It's not like all the sellers aren't connected to the same system.

If someone has worked in that industry might have some insight, but having built a lot of web stores stock management isn't exactly magic. Especially when you aren't dealing with physical stock which might break or get lost or not get to the store on time.
Once you Goblak...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#69270
On July 31 2013 01:33 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 01:25 Judicator wrote:
On July 31 2013 00:51 Tunga wrote:
On July 30 2013 23:11 teapoted wrote:
So apparently what's happening is since the flights are full they're just letting people on the next flight, making that flight overbooked.

https://twitter.com/AdmiralBulldog/status/362207560947859456


So is this whole problem an airline issue or a Valve issue?


In the US, some domestic flights are purposely overbooked to account for no-shows, aka maximizing the chance that the plane is leaving with someone in every single seat. Now obviously that can lead to issues if everyone who bought a ticket does show up or if there are unexpected people from previous flights needing to be on the plane.

Not sure if international flights and/or European carriers do the same practice.
Well there's no reason a flight should have be overbooked unless it's done on purpose by the carrier.

There is no technical reason why it would be difficult to make sure you don't oversell tickets. It's not like all the sellers aren't connected to the same system.


You intentional overbook to account for no shows, when for what ever reason there are less no shows than expected, the plane is overbooked, so the people get moved to next plane. Now the odds are high that this plane is also overbooked, since you now also have the leftovers from the previous plane.
It is pretty much a domino effect, that goes on until a plane is not overbooked
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#69271
So I'm an airline, and I have 100 seats. So let's say 90% of the seats tend to be filled, so every flight I have these 10 empty seats that could be occupied. So why not book 110 people (or 109 or 105) instead of 100, and now I make an extra $500 x 10 = $5000 per flight?
It's free money. If my airline is borderline breaking even, that's a big deal. Or maybe it lets me competitively lower ticket prices by 10%.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:41:49
July 30 2013 16:40 GMT
#69272
Well another thing is that airlines get fined for empty seats, at least in Europe. It's a carbon emission rule.

Which is why they'll sell tickets for £10 worth £150 if they're not going to be able to sell enough seats.
Once you Goblak...
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
July 30 2013 16:42 GMT
#69273
btw, how can I see which players I have already stamped?
I don't know...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 16:43:51
July 30 2013 16:43 GMT
#69274
In the compendium they should get coloured.
Once you Goblak...
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#69275
On July 31 2013 00:46 ViZe wrote:
So the pub style that I've had the most success with recently is basically picking a 3, 4, or 5 hero (BH WR clock Sand King and ES are some of my favorites), getting a little farm and experience, then just ganking constantly after that. I very often end up with the lowest gpm or cs or both since I sometimes end up buying wards all game and just camp lanes all day. Does anyone have any advice for improving on this play style because even though it is allowing me to win pretty consistently I really don't feel like I'm improving at all. I actually feel like I am getting worse since I don't even need to cs very often anymore

You are improving. Not your lasthitting ability, but your gamesense.

The next step would be to recognize times where there won't be anything happening for 30 seconds and you can spare to farm a neutral creepspot or the like.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 30 2013 17:11 GMT
#69276
Why are they leaving so late? They should have just went like a week in advance, gotten used to the timezone and avoid this stressful situation. Now even if they make it on time, jetlag could be a big issue.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
July 30 2013 17:16 GMT
#69277
On July 31 2013 02:11 hifriend wrote:
Why are they leaving so late? They should have just went like a week in advance, gotten used to the timezone and avoid this stressful situation. Now even if they make it on time, jetlag could be a big issue.

You going to pay for their extra week of hotel and food for 6 people?
twitter: @terrancem
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:18:02
July 30 2013 17:17 GMT
#69278
The Chinese players have already arrived if I am not mistaken?

Chuan mentioned they will be coming a bit early to avoid jetlag and other issues and get used to the environment.
Play your best
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 30 2013 17:21 GMT
#69279
On July 31 2013 02:17 FakeDeath wrote:
The Chinese players have already arrived if I am not mistaken?

Chuan mentioned they will be coming a bit early to avoid jetlag and other issues and get used to the environment.

And Chinese teams have a lot more funding than Western teams.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 17:24:51
July 30 2013 17:22 GMT
#69280


So they maybe came one or two days before the other teams.


e: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=533401586726127&l=d30bf7be0f

This looks like either arrival or departure, so they didn't came earlier at all.
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