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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On April 06 2012 21:57 Firebolt145 wrote: Another reason I go treads is because I don't go any other HP items so need the str from treads. I... What? Spectre is meant to build tanky with very few damage items, how can treads be the only item that gives you HP? Where's your vanguard, or just vit booster for that matter? What about heart? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On April 06 2012 22:40 smr wrote: dendi is amazing. randomned kunkka and is right now building his 4th battlefury That game was so sad...felt sorry for him T_T | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
why don't players max out these 2 first before aura? is the 0.5 regen really that huge over the difference in skill dmg? | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:13 konadora wrote: just played cm going 4/4 on first two skills first lol why don't players max out these 2 first before aura? is the 0.5 regen really that huge over the difference in skill dmg? Depends on your lineup - with a lot of spammers, who have stuns and nukes themselves the aura helps tremendously. If the amount of spellcasters is low, leaving aura out is better, so CM becomes a monster in early ganks. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
I think iv seen navi skip the aura though, so I cant argue. .5 global mana regen is pretty damn good though. Some heroes just fucking love having that aura around. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
@konadora: bc having kills on cm do nothing good. she is still 1 shot material into mid game despite how much farm she has and agic will be nagated once BKB is on the field. There were a lot of cases where CM max QW in competitive(mainly bc team has mana boots and dont need that much mana) but personally i prefer maxing nova, 1 level frost bit and all aura. The reason is frost bite will simply break if the target takes dmg so lv it up for duration is lot more useless. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
And they are called gg branches cause of the item description http://www.playdota.com/items/ironwood-branch | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:21 Yoshi- wrote: Frost bite won't break when the target takes damages... And they are called gg branches cause of the item description http://www.playdota.com/items/ironwood-branch The name "gg branch" predates the caption. EDIT: And yes, CM builds are 100% dependent on lineups and your role. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:27 Yoshi- wrote: Not like it would matter at all. He asked why they're called "gg branches". Obviously it can't be because of the caption if people were calling them gg branches before the caption existed. IIRC the reasoning was something like "if you see someone with them on the other team, you should gg because they know what they're doing" (this was back in the early days of DotA when everyone sucked). On April 06 2012 23:20 NB wrote: @konadora: bc having kills on cm do nothing good. she is still 1 shot material into mid game despite how much farm she has and agic will be nagated once BKB is on the field. There were a lot of cases where CM max QW in competitive(mainly bc team has mana boots and dont need that much mana) but personally i prefer maxing nova, 1 level frost bit and all aura. The reason is frost bite will simply break if the target takes dmg so lv it up for duration is lot more useless. I don't agree with that. Just because she'll still be weak in teamfights later on doesn't mean that early gold can't have huge effect on the game. If CM gets FB gold and can get Boots->Phases/Urn a few minutes earlier, she puts insane pressure on all the lanes. 1-2 kills on CM can turn into more gold than the kills themselves are worth on your carries because of how much farming space you create for them with your gank threat. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
Oh god. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:21 Yoshi- wrote: Frost bite won't break when the target takes damages... And they are called gg branches cause of the item description http://www.playdota.com/items/ironwood-branch They were actually called GG branches (Not ironwood branch) Actually now I'm not certain of this and its probably incorrect but -.- They were gg branches way before I read that caption | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 06 2012 21:35 Unleashing wrote: You guys are assuming that you'll be attacking a stationary target. FYI, attack speed does very little for practical DPS early and mid-game, it might boost theoretical DPS, but in practice you'll be auto attacking -> running -> auto attacking -> running -> auto attacking -> running since very few times will you be standing still just wacking on someone unless your team has heavy CC. And the two of you might disagree, but phase is the most common pick-up, and is what is seen in 90% of the cases on competitive spectre games. And using a 6.67 game as an example is a pretty bad example, that is 7 versions ago, plenty of things have changed. I was looking at the games at the International, it's hard to find several games with Spectre more recent than that and it has a nice website to quickly check the endgame items. 5 times Spectre had treads 1 time Spectre had phase (Kuroky in GG.net vs Nevo) 1 time Spectre had BoT (That ridiculous 90min iG vs EHOME opening game, not sure what kind of boots they first bought, not even the replay is avaible. It happened a while ago, but you I don't see how it affects wether Spectre gets Phase or Treads that much. About the CM discussion, I don't get how maxing a disable means you are trying to get kills for yourself. You obviously are not the best player in the team to get the kill, but it's not like you are stealing it, if you got it because of the 70 dps of frostbite you probally just got lucky. Plus, more money for you may mean better support power and more money for your whole team, it's not like items on CM are useless. | ||
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Toadily
United States837 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On April 06 2012 23:39 Candadar wrote: SingSing and Moonmeander playing together. Oh god. Moon is awfully quiet, don't think he's used to SingSings brand of crazy. | ||
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