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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 06 2012 01:17 GMT
#6841
On April 06 2012 04:00 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 03:55 MrCon wrote:
On April 06 2012 03:49 cilinder007 wrote:
motm is magical dmg, it just does through bkb

Is it ? It damage the ancients, so I guess it's mixed damage like beast's axe or something like that ?


It's universal magic damage. Only Midnight Pulse, Doom and MotM do it



³: Enhanced spells include all types of Cleave (some AT: Hero; unreduced), Poison Sting, Corrosive Breath, Poison Attack, Geostrike, Quilbeast Poison, Corrosive Skin, Envenomed Weapons, Echo Slam, Shadow Strike Initial Damage, Venomous Gale Initial Damage, and Heat Seeking Missile.
There's also a class that goes through magic immune, is affected by resistance, but doesn't get boosted by ethereal.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
April 06 2012 02:32 GMT
#6842
On April 06 2012 08:22 Kiante wrote:
i hate playing tinker....you never get a break, once you have bot's you're constantly hitting keys there's no like, hitting a lane and last hitting a bit, or just moving around, its tp-march-rockets-soul ring-rearm-bottle-march-etcetcetc

fucking so tiring in a really long game

cmon Kiante, you're a C+ BW player!
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
April 06 2012 02:34 GMT
#6843
On April 06 2012 08:22 Kiante wrote:
i hate playing tinker....you never get a break, once you have bot's you're constantly hitting keys there's no like, hitting a lane and last hitting a bit, or just moving around, its tp-march-rockets-soul ring-rearm-bottle-march-etcetcetc

fucking so tiring in a really long game

oh god i played a 1:33:xx game with tinker. most stressful game of dota in my life.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 06 2012 02:57 GMT
#6844
On April 06 2012 11:32 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 08:22 Kiante wrote:
i hate playing tinker....you never get a break, once you have bot's you're constantly hitting keys there's no like, hitting a lane and last hitting a bit, or just moving around, its tp-march-rockets-soul ring-rearm-bottle-march-etcetcetc

fucking so tiring in a really long game

cmon Kiante, you're a C+ BW player!

BW mechanics >>> Tinker mechanics
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
April 06 2012 03:12 GMT
#6845
it's not that i cant do it, it's that i play dota2 when i cant be fucked playing bw. less clicking = less effort
Writer
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 06 2012 05:02 GMT
#6846
Why have none of my favorite streamers been streaming the last few days?
Jieun <3
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
April 06 2012 05:47 GMT
#6847
On April 06 2012 14:02 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Why have none of my favorite streamers been streaming the last few days?


Dota 2 streamers are super inconsistent right now because no one is really doing it for a living yet (streaming)
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
April 06 2012 05:52 GMT
#6848
On April 06 2012 14:47 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 14:02 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Why have none of my favorite streamers been streaming the last few days?


Dota 2 streamers are super inconsistent right now because no one is really doing it for a living yet (streaming)

Dendi said in some Interview, that he's playing dota for a living and presumably gets quite good money from streaming (6k viewers on a regular basis)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 06 2012 05:55 GMT
#6849
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p
POGGERS
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 06 2012 06:09 GMT
#6850
On April 06 2012 14:55 konadora wrote:
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p


ehhh i prefer demon/fear to singsing, even though i know thats probably blasphemy here.
Jieun <3
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 06 2012 06:11 GMT
#6851
On April 06 2012 15:09 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 14:55 konadora wrote:
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p


ehhh i prefer demon/fear to singsing, even though i know thats probably blasphemy here.

blasphemy!

but why? you like them vaporeons?
POGGERS
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 06 2012 06:12 GMT
#6852
On April 06 2012 15:11 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:09 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:55 konadora wrote:
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p


ehhh i prefer demon/fear to singsing, even though i know thats probably blasphemy here.

blasphemy!

but why? you like them vaporeons?


No doubt! Haha i like them all just being assholes to each other.
Jieun <3
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 06 2012 06:14 GMT
#6853
On April 06 2012 15:12 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:11 konadora wrote:
On April 06 2012 15:09 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:55 konadora wrote:
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p


ehhh i prefer demon/fear to singsing, even though i know thats probably blasphemy here.

blasphemy!

but why? you like them vaporeons?


No doubt! Haha i like them all just being assholes to each other.

only thing i like about their streams is doing stupid shit and losing won games, and trying to get each other killed lol

singsing is a powerhouse entertainment though
POGGERS
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 06 2012 06:15 GMT
#6854
On April 06 2012 15:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:12 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 06 2012 15:11 konadora wrote:
On April 06 2012 15:09 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 06 2012 14:55 konadora wrote:
only people i'd watch over sleep or food would be dendi, singsing and tobi :p


ehhh i prefer demon/fear to singsing, even though i know thats probably blasphemy here.

blasphemy!

but why? you like them vaporeons?


No doubt! Haha i like them all just being assholes to each other.

only thing i like about their streams is doing stupid shit and losing won games, and trying to get each other killed lol

singsing is a powerhouse entertainment though


usa #1.

I do like singsing tho, hes solid.
Jieun <3
VaporSmurf
Profile Joined August 2011
10 Posts
April 06 2012 08:11 GMT
#6855
Trading a Dota 2 Account(Spare) For a Counterstrike GO beta key

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST... MUST EMAIL ME

Greentrollsmurf@hotmail.com
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
April 06 2012 08:46 GMT
#6856
On April 06 2012 07:41 NB wrote:
we are talking about Australian internet compare to russian... despite how terrible the russian dota stereo type is, there must be some truth into the matter.

anyway, just read the esfiworld article and i have to say, they likes posting outdated ranking :-/

No matter when you write something, it'll be out of date by the time you publish it - they're honest about the way they do stuff.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
April 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#6857
any general tips regarding how to play spectre? i played her for the first time yesterday with kona and started out very badly (fortunately we won).

1. should i be using ult all the time when it's up? is there a psyching-out factor regarding the use of the ult to?
2. when do i jump into the teamfight? i'm assuming its after the initial initiation, but do i jump in right after or when i spot someone who i can haunt and kill in a few shots?
3. once i have jumped into the fight, do i just dagger whoever possible?
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 06 2012 10:31 GMT
#6858
On April 06 2012 19:16 zeehar wrote:
any general tips regarding how to play spectre? i played her for the first time yesterday with kona and started out very badly (fortunately we won).

1. should i be using ult all the time when it's up? is there a psyching-out factor regarding the use of the ult to?
2. when do i jump into the teamfight? i'm assuming its after the initial initiation, but do i jump in right after or when i spot someone who i can haunt and kill in a few shots?
3. once i have jumped into the fight, do i just dagger whoever possible?


Should be in SQ, SA thread but still:

1. Early, you should only use it if you have enough mana to spare for a Dagger afterwards + 3-5 enemies are missing on the minimap. Mid-lategame, you should be saving it while you farm on a lane, usually when the opponents are pushing so you can haunt in if either side engages.

2. Wait for a few seconds, but not too long before you haunt in, for that extra 1-2 hits of Desolate/right click illusion damage.

3. 2 ways to do this, I'd guess, which is to either dagger the one with lowest hp, or to dagger as many as you can get in the AOE.

Anyone experienced can feel free to correct me on any/every point if I'm wrong.
ffxiv enjoyer
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
April 06 2012 10:32 GMT
#6859
On April 06 2012 19:16 zeehar wrote:
any general tips regarding how to play spectre? i played her for the first time yesterday with kona and started out very badly (fortunately we won).

1. should i be using ult all the time when it's up? is there a psyching-out factor regarding the use of the ult to?
2. when do i jump into the teamfight? i'm assuming its after the initial initiation, but do i jump in right after or when i spot someone who i can haunt and kill in a few shots?
3. once i have jumped into the fight, do i just dagger whoever possible?


Spectre is one of the radience heroes and you really should try to get it asap. Your last hitting is quite good in it and your survivability aswell, dagger up and down cliffs and generally quite tanky.

The ulti is very nice in a team fight as it creates alot of confusion. I usually do it right after the initiation. Put yourself behind the focus target with the ulti and dagger the it and just rightclick.

The ulti can also be used as a suprise gank since you can gank anywhere on the map, dont be afraid to duel 1v1 since spectre is one of the strongest 1v1er.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
April 06 2012 10:46 GMT
#6860
On April 06 2012 19:16 zeehar wrote:
any general tips regarding how to play spectre? i played her for the first time yesterday with kona and started out very badly (fortunately we won).

1. should i be using ult all the time when it's up? is there a psyching-out factor regarding the use of the ult to?
2. when do i jump into the teamfight? i'm assuming its after the initial initiation, but do i jump in right after or when i spot someone who i can haunt and kill in a few shots?
3. once i have jumped into the fight, do i just dagger whoever possible?



One of the huge benefits of Spectre is that she can shut down blink-initiators with her ult. If you know a team fight is going to happen, you can ult, then engage safely and avoid something like a blink-ulti from sand king or es. Also, as far as team fights go, you should be aiming to take as many spells as possible. You take reduced damage and deal it back to anyone who attacks you and it is much better for you to get hit by lina ults and the like than your squishy supports. This is the reason why spectres almost never get BKB and instead get vanguard+hearts (heart after radiance obv).

The biggest thing with her is farming safely and effectively. You need to be really good at last hitting and have excellent map awareness so you can farm up until the last moment where you can jump into team fights and take all the kills. Early game you want to be the cleanup crew in team fights, avoiding all the damage but getting all the kills. Late game, like I said earlier, you want to be taking all the spells and as much damage as possible without actually dieing, allowing your supports to get all their spells off.
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