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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
July 24 2013 08:20 GMT
#67881
On July 24 2013 16:58 cecek wrote:
Veil does give you more damage than Aghanims. It even costs less, but it doesn't give you a load of HP and mana like Aghanims. Not sure how good eblade is in terms of damage.

Also, Aghanims is the easiest item to use. Using Veil is annoying.


its one button? :D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 08:40:18
July 24 2013 08:39 GMT
#67882
Normally after SK gets Arcanes+Blink he can get whatever random support items the team needs (Vlad's, Force Staff, Drums, etc.). Ghost Scepter is naturally also going to be quite good at that point as well. Veil falls under this category, but only insofar as it benefits your team. If you're getting one just for yourself, it probably won't do enough to make it's poor stats worthwhile.

Aghanim's is an item to consider when you're in a farming role or really fed. A late Aghanim's isn't that useful. It doesn't directly add to the damage of the spell but adds more pulses instead, so it's effect is more noticeable if you can get one on lower rank ultis. Going from 10->12 pulses at level 16 is already overkill seeing as any fight where you can keep their team in place for that should be more or less settled. Going fro 6->8 (ok, even a farming Sand King probably won't have Agha before 11) or 8->10 pulses is basically like getting your next rank of Ulti a few levels earlier, which is pretty good,
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 24 2013 09:14 GMT
#67883
bkb is probably the standard followup to blink but there are a lot of choices depending on the game
and aghs isn't really that good on sandking. the buildup is nice but generally other items are better
max sandstorm second so you can jungle with it
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
July 24 2013 09:16 GMT
#67884
No one likes going battlefury on sand king...

I guess its just me.
Skol
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
July 24 2013 09:17 GMT
#67885
Was away for about 2.5 months... What's new?

Changelog way too long.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 24 2013 09:18 GMT
#67886
first few games of SK I ever played, I got bfury everytime

Kelen who?
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
July 24 2013 09:18 GMT
#67887
On July 24 2013 18:14 Dead9 wrote:
bkb is probably the standard followup to blink but there are a lot of choices depending on the game
and aghs isn't really that good on sandking. the buildup is nice but generally other items are better
max sandstorm second so you can jungle with it



By the time you're maxing a second skill you can jungle fast with caustic. I've never seen the appeal of sandstorm, personally
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 24 2013 09:18 GMT
#67888
Well, the pulse aoe does get larger over time. So theoretically you could use agh for the larger slowing area.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 24 2013 09:20 GMT
#67889
On July 24 2013 18:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
first few games of SK I ever played, I got bfury everytime

Kelen who?


I used to even go Radiance if I farmed well enough lol.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 24 2013 09:21 GMT
#67890
On July 24 2013 18:18 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 18:14 Dead9 wrote:
bkb is probably the standard followup to blink but there are a lot of choices depending on the game
and aghs isn't really that good on sandking. the buildup is nice but generally other items are better
max sandstorm second so you can jungle with it



By the time you're maxing a second skill you can jungle fast with caustic. I've never seen the appeal of sandstorm, personally

you take damage clearing with caustic, and burrowstriking constantly takes a lot of mana
also sandstorm clears stacked camps quickly and painlessly
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 24 2013 09:22 GMT
#67891
On a related note...

At what game state/net worth is it good to skip Arcanes and go save for Blink (on any support relevant to the question)? And how long is "too long" for not buying Wards so you can save up a little more gold, assuming it's a hero like SK or ES that can make big plays with a Blink.

I know it's situational...but it's usually something that nags at me when I'm playing a support. I might get some kills or a few assists, suddenly find myself at 1500 gold at a fairly early time, and I always flip-flop.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 09:24:48
July 24 2013 09:23 GMT
#67892
Someone asked about the launch queue?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


And seeing how fast the amount of new players is growing, i'd have to say they're letting people in at a pretty big speed.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
July 24 2013 09:24 GMT
#67893
honestly, on STR supports like ES and SK, i feel they need the extra mana from the arcane boots active, not to mention the extra mana pool, so very very bad to be able to have some flexibility with spells
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
July 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#67894
Everytime I skip arcane and go straight blink on sk, I always go oom to get a full combo off.

So I never rush blink again. It may be more flexible if you have something like a wand.
Skol
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 24 2013 09:25 GMT
#67895
Shouldn't these be in simple questions answers?
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
July 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#67896
On July 24 2013 18:23 Unleashing wrote:
Someone asked about the launch queue?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


And seeing how fast the amount of new players is growing, i'd have to say they're letting people in at a pretty big speed.


Yeah well... I was at 7000 for 5 days. And now I wake up and see I am now at 3000...
Set it ablaze!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
July 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#67897
On July 24 2013 18:23 Unleashing wrote:
Someone asked about the launch queue?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


And seeing how fast the amount of new players is growing, i'd have to say they're letting people in at a pretty big speed.

What the heck? My friend made an account two days ago and there were only 6 in the queue. Growing fast I guess.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
July 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#67898
What is that launch queue for?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 24 2013 09:30 GMT
#67899
I guess that's a queue for new players that wants to register and download DotA2 for the very first time.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
July 24 2013 09:30 GMT
#67900
On July 24 2013 18:27 Nausea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 18:23 Unleashing wrote:
Someone asked about the launch queue?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


And seeing how fast the amount of new players is growing, i'd have to say they're letting people in at a pretty big speed.


Yeah well... I was at 7000 for 5 days. And now I wake up and see I am now at 3000...

Wait this is weird. Like I mentioned in my last post my friend only had 6 players in his queue two days ago. I also made a new account to play with him 3 days ago and there were like 13 in queue. Maybe it's based on where you're from and the demand in area?
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