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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 09 2013 14:39 GMT
#65581
Well I guess that makes sense. But there's still the issue of pugna diverting the aggro off of Lion.

The only way you can do that is if you rightclick the enemy hero right? But from the way he is facing it looks as if he "attacks" the lion.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 09 2013 14:50 GMT
#65582
You can draw aggro by attacking an ally. And yes, it works like that in DotA 2. Someone even falsely reported it as a bug.
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=15071
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thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
July 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#65583
On July 09 2013 23:50 TheYango wrote:
You can draw aggro by attacking an ally. And yes, it works like that in DotA 2. Someone even falsely reported it as a bug.
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=15071


as far as i know this doesn't work in dota 2
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
July 09 2013 15:07 GMT
#65584
I just tested this and it doesn't work as you say Yango.

Tried it 2 ways with a friend.

1) let creeps fight each other, get ally near and click on ally to try to force creeps to go on you..doesn't work

2) spawned enemy bot, rightclicked him with hero so creeps aggro me then friend spammed attack on me and they still attacked me

What's happening T_T Either valve changed something or our test's are being done wrong.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 15:36:40
July 09 2013 15:17 GMT
#65585
Valve had to have changed something then. Because there are multiple such threads incorrectly reporting it as a bug. Maybe one of those didn't get properly marked as incorrect and a Valve dev who didn't know that interaction is correct "fixed" it.
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thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
July 09 2013 15:19 GMT
#65586
Bumped that thread you linked, i hope they fix it.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
July 09 2013 15:45 GMT
#65587
TL Doto better get your pitchforks ready



CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
July 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#65588
On July 09 2013 16:02 tapes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 15:57 CustomKal wrote:
Just thought I would throw this out in the general forum, but I just finished my first version of a dota 2 rainmeter skin if anyone is interested here

That looks great


Thanks I tried to go with something a bit more open and minimalist compared to my last skin XD
QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 19:08:06
July 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#65589
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.
@QKachoo
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 09 2013 19:12 GMT
#65590
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.
QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
July 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#65591
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.


Exactly this. Every time I queue it is like rolling the dice. Will i have an even matched game, will i get stomped, will i do some stomping, will the people on my team speak english?
@QKachoo
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
July 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#65592
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.



Where did you read this?
i wear a kitten scarf
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
July 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#65593
the secret to dota

is to stack
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#65594
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.

Well, the matches that are found quickly should have decent balance, considering the search range is lower.
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Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
July 09 2013 19:30 GMT
#65595
On July 10 2013 04:20 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.

Well, the matches that are found quickly should have decent balance, considering the search range is lower.


Not if the algorithm is forcing the widening of the range to lower search time ... which is probably what he means (he feels) is happening.

Though I always wanted to see some Valve source on the search range, what does it mean when it's full and such. Does anyone have something like that ?
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 09 2013 19:33 GMT
#65596
On July 10 2013 04:17 Imbajoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.



Where did you read this?



Everyone that had high mmr (as in first three pages or so) used to have to wait for like 20 minutes for games per que. Now it's drastically cut down the search times, at the cost of ridiculously imbalanced games.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 09 2013 19:34 GMT
#65597
sounds like people are gonna bitch either way :/
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 19:40:54
July 09 2013 19:39 GMT
#65598
On July 10 2013 04:17 Imbajoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 04:12 superstartran wrote:
On July 10 2013 04:06 QQKachoo wrote:
WTB Ranked Solo Matchmaking. That is all. Actually lets get a better matchmaking system all around.



The current MM system sucks because it prioritizes finding games rather than making them even. This results in highly imbalanced situations.



Where did you read this?


You can just play the game and see it by yourself.
Dota2 MM is far from good, my queue times usually go over 3 minutes and the mathes are rarely balanced.

Anyways, am I the only one who noticed that the meld attack of TA is heavily delayed ? I usually use meld while spamming right click on the guy I want to hit. It's almost like there is a cooldown between the first half of the meld animation (the part where TA goes invis) and the second half of it. It's really annoying because it feels clunky and sluggish.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 20:07:53
July 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#65599
I mean only the most rabid Valve drone is going to defend Dota 2 MM right now but it's been discussed to death and will likely not be changed for a very long time so it is what it is, no point arguing about it.

Edit: In other news 300k viewers across all streams for alienware cup and mastercard already posting about a 2nd
QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
July 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#65600
On July 10 2013 04:53 Esoterikk wrote:
I mean only the most rabid Valve drone is going to defend Dota 2 MM right now but it's been discussed to death and will likely not be changed for a very long time so it is what it is, no point arguing about it.


Didn't you know? Valve can do no wrong.
@QKachoo
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