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gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
July 04 2013 04:34 GMT
#64901
Fastest way for 2 towers tutorial is imho rushing vlads into buckler or smth like that, depends on hero.
Heroes which are the fastest are probably the following but the differences are not really that grave.
DP
DK
Drow
Razor
SK
Sniper
Sven
Tide
Viper

For the 5 bot games i suggest picking drow, for me it has been the fastest (~13 minutes)
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
July 04 2013 04:42 GMT
#64902
How to complete the part of the tutorial where you have to do 10 whatevers..

'sv_cheats 1' before starting quest.
'dota_create_neutral_hero fountain' after game has been created.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 05:16:17
July 04 2013 04:48 GMT
#64903
Alternatively, you can speed up time with a console command.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 04:51:34
July 04 2013 04:50 GMT
#64904
-edit-
somehow doublepost
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 04 2013 04:51 GMT
#64905
For the solo mid level I got 7:30 ish with warlock, shrapnel sniper and dp. The others took at least 10 because the damn ai pulls the creeps behind the tower all the time.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
July 04 2013 04:55 GMT
#64906
Why do pros build linkens on naga?
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
July 04 2013 05:04 GMT
#64907
Bkb isn't that hot on illusion heroes and sometimes spell block comes in handy (plus some stats and regen for riptide spam).
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 04 2013 05:09 GMT
#64908
On July 04 2013 13:55 Fwizzz wrote:
Why do pros build linkens on naga?


Infinite illusions + riptide, and you're almost guaranteed to be able to cast sleep to get away from any gank.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 04 2013 05:23 GMT
#64909
Those actually don't explain why pros do not build linken's on Chaos Knight. Illusion hero, strong expensive spells with moderate cooldowns and people still buy bkb on him.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 04 2013 05:27 GMT
#64910
bkb better teamfight item then linkens and cheaper
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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 04 2013 05:31 GMT
#64911
On July 04 2013 14:23 Mataza wrote:
Those actually don't explain why pros do not build linken's on Chaos Knight. Illusion hero, strong expensive spells with moderate cooldowns and people still buy bkb on him.


Thought it was obvious enough... naga's illusions are spammable, and riptide works on every one of them, which makes naga a really strong splitpushing hero while he's possibly farming the jungle, which is very mana intensive. This is reinforced by linkens, making him hard to catch when he is pushing lanes far out on his own.

CK on the other hand can't split push at all, and his illusions are used solely for team fighting. CK needs BKB because focusing single targets is the only thing he's good at, he can't afford to waste time getting kited and controlled.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 05:34:52
July 04 2013 05:33 GMT
#64912
What pro built linkens on naga besides Brax? That was a support naga anyways with a 35k gold lead, so it doesn't really count (should've went vanguard blink dagger though if you ask me).
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 05:40:08
July 04 2013 05:35 GMT
#64913
On July 04 2013 13:51 Mataza wrote:
For the solo mid level I got 7:30 ish with warlock, shrapnel sniper and dp. The others took at least 10 because the damn ai pulls the creeps behind the tower all the time.


I think it's better to kill the opposing mid a few times. Gives you a nice chunk of exp. Naturally has diminishing returns though.

Once you have a small lead they won't bother you at the tower.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 05:52:09
July 04 2013 05:51 GMT
#64914
On July 04 2013 14:23 Mataza wrote:
Those actually don't explain why pros do not build linken's on Chaos Knight. Illusion hero, strong expensive spells with moderate cooldowns and people still buy bkb on him.

Linken is a farming item for heroes that have spammable (but expensive) farming nukes that benefit from +all stats and can split-push with spell-block.

CK doesn't fit this picture because he has poor farming ability and consequently weak splitpushing. He doesn't want a regen farming item, he wants items that let him keep fighting, because if the game stalls out into a farm game, CK is going to lose.

Being an illusion hero is irrelevant.

On July 04 2013 14:33 Kishin2 wrote:
What pro built linkens on naga besides Brax? That was a support naga anyways with a 35k gold lead, so it doesn't really count (should've went vanguard blink dagger though if you ask me).

Treads+Linken was the Naga build played the most at TI2, inherited from the Chinese after playing against Zenith (prior to this they were generally playing Arcanes+Heart).
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 04 2013 06:29 GMT
#64915
Steam downloaded the update for me, but then when I tried playing it said my client was out of date . Do I really need to reinstall the game gain to be able to play?
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 06:49:23
July 04 2013 06:47 GMT
#64916
-edit-
nevermind

On July 04 2013 15:29 jrkirby wrote:
Steam downloaded the update for me, but then when I tried playing it said my client was out of date . Do I really need to reinstall the game gain to be able to play?

Restarting steam usually fixes this.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 04 2013 07:05 GMT
#64917
On July 04 2013 15:47 Kishin2 wrote:
-edit-
nevermind

Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:29 jrkirby wrote:
Steam downloaded the update for me, but then when I tried playing it said my client was out of date . Do I really need to reinstall the game gain to be able to play?

Restarting steam usually fixes this.

Oh thanks. Yup that worked
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
July 04 2013 07:35 GMT
#64918
The sniper tutorial has rain in it :D
Seems like -weather rain will finally be a thing again.
Maybe they'll introduce some of the other old commands, like -water 0 0 0 and -music
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 04 2013 07:48 GMT
#64919
Maybe there will be cosmetic weather items.
super gg
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 04 2013 07:54 GMT
#64920
Being launched into dota with 0 knowledge was a lot of fun for me. All those heroes and items to learn, copying what the previous guy did to rape you in the last game, it was a long way and really fun one.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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