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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 04 2013 12:26 GMT
#64941
On July 04 2013 14:23 Mataza wrote:
Those actually don't explain why pros do not build linken's on Chaos Knight. Illusion hero, strong expensive spells with moderate cooldowns and people still buy bkb on him.

exactly, genius.
we should buy linkens on pl too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 04 2013 12:32 GMT
#64942
On July 04 2013 21:20 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:10 Shaella wrote:
whats more important to you

Explaining to new players that items are activateable or explaining THIS IS THE OPTIMAL SNIPER BUILD AT ALL TIMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE USING

I think some of the recommended items just need to be revised. Vanguard is by no means core on Batrider, Alchemist or Razor, and Mek isn't even in the item list for Dark Seer lol

Or you know you just pick one of the player guides.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 04 2013 12:39 GMT
#64943
On July 04 2013 21:20 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:10 Shaella wrote:
whats more important to you

Explaining to new players that items are activateable or explaining THIS IS THE OPTIMAL SNIPER BUILD AT ALL TIMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE USING

I think some of the recommended items just need to be revised. Vanguard is by no means core on Batrider, Alchemist or Razor, and Mek isn't even in the item list for Dark Seer lol

The reccomended items are for beginners. if you are knowledgeable enough to know why they aren't very good, they aren't being reccomended to you. At super low levels I don't really care if people buy vanguards on every hero, being able to mitigate creep damage and have some sustain is a very significant boon to them
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 04 2013 12:54 GMT
#64944
You should edit all those heroes reccomended builds into your own, makes shopping life easier too.
WriterXiao8~~
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 04 2013 13:21 GMT
#64945
does WR's default item build in the shop still have no stick/wand?
ffxiv enjoyer
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3459 Posts
July 04 2013 13:54 GMT
#64946
When is the June PR gonna be out ? I'm quite excited to see that
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 04 2013 14:32 GMT
#64947
On July 04 2013 21:24 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:20 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:10 Shaella wrote:
whats more important to you

Explaining to new players that items are activateable or explaining THIS IS THE OPTIMAL SNIPER BUILD AT ALL TIMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE USING

I think some of the recommended items just need to be revised. Vanguard is by no means core on Batrider, Alchemist or Razor, and Mek isn't even in the item list for Dark Seer lol



Headdress start is definitely core on Syllabear though ;p

This annoyed me to no end.
Moderator
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 04 2013 14:42 GMT
#64948
What the fuck is the point of the solo queue? Is there even any MMR in that dumpster queue or does it just take 10 random players and match them randomly?
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 04 2013 14:53 GMT
#64949
On July 04 2013 23:42 EmilA wrote:
What the fuck is the point of the solo queue? Is there even any MMR in that dumpster queue or does it just take 10 random players and match them randomly?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452&currentpage=last This way, please.
super gg
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 04 2013 14:54 GMT
#64950
When will Fnatic's pennant come in the store?
EZ4ENCE
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#64951
On July 04 2013 23:54 WindWolf wrote:
When will Fnatic's pennant come in the store?


When they decide to do it, i'd figure?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#64952
On July 04 2013 19:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know if this was brought up already but kespa and lol are holding hands. korean dota gg no re


Do you have a link to that information?
twitch.tv/crayhasissues ||| @crayhasissues on twitter ||| Dota 2 Streamer that loves to help new players!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 04 2013 15:40 GMT
#64953
On July 05 2013 00:36 crayhasissues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know if this was brought up already but kespa and lol are holding hands. korean dota gg no re


Do you have a link to that information?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420047

Nothing really new other than a PL in Korea for LoL. There were already Kespa teams and OGN was doing champions so all that's really happening is that the BW hole is being taken over. Doesn't seem to change anything about Dota in Korea though since it's not like this wasn't coming or hasn't been coming.
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#64954
On July 05 2013 00:40 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 00:36 crayhasissues wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know if this was brought up already but kespa and lol are holding hands. korean dota gg no re


Do you have a link to that information?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420047

Nothing really new other than a PL in Korea for LoL. There were already Kespa teams and OGN was doing champions so all that's really happening is that the BW hole is being taken over. Doesn't seem to change anything about Dota in Korea though since it's not like this wasn't coming or hasn't been coming.


Gotcha. I have SC2 news filtered out, so I didn't see it. With the Nexon Starter League and others like it to come in Korea, I'm not worried about Dota 2's prospects in that market.
twitch.tv/crayhasissues ||| @crayhasissues on twitter ||| Dota 2 Streamer that loves to help new players!
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#64955
Since the patch, matchmaking seems to be ignoring me. 20 minutes, not even trying to get me into a game. Is it broken for anyone else?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 04 2013 16:18 GMT
#64956
Restart steam, report back.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 04 2013 16:18 GMT
#64957
is it dota2test ? are you queuing australia captain mode only ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 16:34:54
July 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#64958
On July 05 2013 00:40 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 00:36 crayhasissues wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know if this was brought up already but kespa and lol are holding hands. korean dota gg no re


Do you have a link to that information?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420047

Nothing really new other than a PL in Korea for LoL. There were already Kespa teams and OGN was doing champions so all that's really happening is that the BW hole is being taken over. Doesn't seem to change anything about Dota in Korea though since it's not like this wasn't coming or hasn't been coming.

actually i think this has quite a large effect on the future of professional dota in korea. pro teams (non kespa) in korea dont have enough knowledge/skill to simply just practice on their own and try and catch up to the rest of the world. im not saying its impossible, but kespa has shown multiple times that even with new games, their players can become the best. this is because they know what it takes to produce top gamers thanks to bw (not talking about simply practicing the game. the way kespa teams approach the game and manage their players are on a totally different level to other teams). im not sure other teams will be able to emulate what kespa teams are capable of doing. everyone says "if dota gets big in korea, korea will rival china", but honestly what everyone means is "if kespa gets into dota, korea will rival china". at least thats my opinion
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 16:39:40
July 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#64959
On July 04 2013 21:39 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 21:20 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:10 Shaella wrote:
whats more important to you

Explaining to new players that items are activateable or explaining THIS IS THE OPTIMAL SNIPER BUILD AT ALL TIMES THAT YOU SHOULD BE USING

I think some of the recommended items just need to be revised. Vanguard is by no means core on Batrider, Alchemist or Razor, and Mek isn't even in the item list for Dark Seer lol

The reccomended items are for beginners. if you are knowledgeable enough to know why they aren't very good, they aren't being reccomended to you. At super low levels I don't really care if people buy vanguards on every hero, being able to mitigate creep damage and have some sustain is a very significant boon to them


Vanguard was core on Alchemist and Razor a while ago. Mekansm was rarely seen on Dark Seer until last year (or late the year before). The suggestions are outdated more than anything. As you mention, an item like Vanguard is very noob-friendly due to easy build up and importance of HP.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
July 04 2013 17:25 GMT
#64960
On July 05 2013 01:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 00:40 Numy wrote:
On July 05 2013 00:36 crayhasissues wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont know if this was brought up already but kespa and lol are holding hands. korean dota gg no re


Do you have a link to that information?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420047

Nothing really new other than a PL in Korea for LoL. There were already Kespa teams and OGN was doing champions so all that's really happening is that the BW hole is being taken over. Doesn't seem to change anything about Dota in Korea though since it's not like this wasn't coming or hasn't been coming.

actually i think this has quite a large effect on the future of professional dota in korea. pro teams (non kespa) in korea dont have enough knowledge/skill to simply just practice on their own and try and catch up to the rest of the world. im not saying its impossible, but kespa has shown multiple times that even with new games, their players can become the best. this is because they know what it takes to produce top gamers thanks to bw (not talking about simply practicing the game. the way kespa teams approach the game and manage their players are on a totally different level to other teams). im not sure other teams will be able to emulate what kespa teams are capable of doing. everyone says "if dota gets big in korea, korea will rival china", but honestly what everyone means is "if kespa gets into dota, korea will rival china". at least thats my opinion


I'm not really into LoL, so correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge Korea is really good in LoL.
So since the news is them & Kespa joining, doesnt that mean that they managed to become good without being depending on Kespa?
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