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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 16:17:15
July 03 2013 16:15 GMT
#64781
On July 04 2013 01:13 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 01:12 Grettin wrote:
On July 04 2013 01:10 Erasme wrote:
Why would bloodseeker counter treant ? you silence him, he punches you, you're dead DEAD


Drives a unit into a bloodthirsty rage, during which it has higher attack damage, but cannot cast spells and takes damage every second. Bloodrage dispels the target before applying its buff.

So it doesn't work against armor? You don't have to fight treant everytime. Theres 4 others.

and then he roots you and punches you in the face.


As i said, theres 4 others you can fight and dispel the armor off. :p Isn't it the armor what pisses people off.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 03 2013 16:17 GMT
#64782
the only terrible discussion in GD are the tree build discussions.


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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 03 2013 16:18 GMT
#64783
On July 04 2013 01:17 crms wrote:
the only terrible discussion in GD are the tree build discussions.


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Tree build discussions were a lot more funny before he was overpowered.

Now it makes me sad - I'm eager to see what exactly the nerf to Tree will do. Hopefully it'll make him a decent amount weaker.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2013 16:18 GMT
#64784
Well, this is pretty self evident but the flak cannon CD nerf actually makes gyro a LOT weaker vs PL. PL doesn't quit generating illusions in those 30 seconds.

Like, without a divine rapier gyro can't keep up with 4-5 slot (manta/diffusal/heart later butterfly) PL illusions just streaming at his base. As a dire PL I sat in radiant jungle and sent all my illusions at their bottom tower for 10-15 minutes and I eventually just got a free rax (okay there were some morph replicates of me involved as well). Their 5-slot gyro with no divine couldn't keep up even with 4 non-aoe teammates running around trying to help.

That game was actually hilarious. 15+ minutes of them fighting nothing but illusions (replicate and 3 manta's helped out) and our lane creeps.

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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 03 2013 16:41 GMT
#64785
On July 04 2013 01:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, this is pretty self evident but the flak cannon CD nerf actually makes gyro a LOT weaker vs PL. PL doesn't quit generating illusions in those 30 seconds.

Like, without a divine rapier gyro can't keep up with 4-5 slot (manta/diffusal/heart later butterfly) PL illusions just streaming at his base. As a dire PL I sat in radiant jungle and sent all my illusions at their bottom tower for 10-15 minutes and I eventually just got a free rax (okay there were some morph replicates of me involved as well). Their 5-slot gyro with no divine couldn't keep up even with 4 non-aoe teammates running around trying to help.

That game was actually hilarious. 15+ minutes of them fighting nothing but illusions (replicate and 3 manta's helped out) and our lane creeps.


havent you heard? Gyro range nerf is coming today!
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2013 16:45 GMT
#64786
10 range nerf makes gyro unplayable obviously.

I mean, you saw how much that 10 range buff to lina did. That hero's op now!

/sarcasm.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 03 2013 16:47 GMT
#64787
Isn't bloodseeker already the counter slark? If you ever get below 50% hp you are not actually healing because big Strygwyr is watching you.
Bloodseeker op?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 16:49:59
July 03 2013 16:49 GMT
#64788
He doesn't gain truesight until 25% I believe.

Well, technically "half the original vision threshold" but once thirst is maxed thats 25%
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 03 2013 16:50 GMT
#64789
Bloodseeker is the counter to everything.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#64790
On July 04 2013 01:50 TheYango wrote:
Bloodseeker Doom is the counter to everything.

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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#64791
On July 04 2013 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
He doesn't gain truesight until 25% I believe.

Well, technically "half the original vision threshold" but once thirst is maxed thats 25%


But he is talking about the heal when slark is not invisible just in fog
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 16:53:05
July 03 2013 16:52 GMT
#64792
doom needs six :p
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2013 16:53 GMT
#64793
On July 04 2013 01:51 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 01:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
He doesn't gain truesight until 25% I believe.

Well, technically "half the original vision threshold" but once thirst is maxed thats 25%


But he is talking about the heal when slark is not invisible just in fog

I suppose I was assuming Slark would ult.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 03 2013 16:54 GMT
#64794
some drama for the day:
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#64795
i brought this up in the alienware LR thread but wasnt really satisfied.

Can you use a soulring nyx to counter OD in mid?

nyx has no cs, but OD will have no mana assuming he doesnt bottle. if your a support nyx, would you consider that a win? what is really wrong (for nyx) with this match up?
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 03 2013 16:56 GMT
#64796
How is that drama, in that entire lol thread only OP has an issue with his statement
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 03 2013 16:57 GMT
#64797
On July 04 2013 01:54 NB wrote:
some drama for the day: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/352466507005034496

The only funny thing about that thread is the "moderator" or w/e poster accusing tb of being butthurt because riot didnt name something after him.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 03 2013 16:58 GMT
#64798
Coz u guys read it all already O.o
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 03 2013 16:59 GMT
#64799
^got to page 5 and found one funny post

You think I have anything better to do on a wednesday at 1 pm????
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 17:02:13
July 03 2013 16:59 GMT
#64800
On July 04 2013 01:55 icystorage wrote:
i brought this up in the alienware LR thread but wasnt really satisfied.

Can you use a soulring nyx to counter OD in mid?

nyx has no cs, but OD will have no mana assuming he doesnt bottle. if your a support nyx, would you consider that a win? what is really wrong (for nyx) with this match up?

The reason for soul ring is to always have mana to use mana burn, right? I feel like its a bit unnecessary - unless the OD is really lucky on mana, you will usually keep his mana down after a few casts until he either has to buy a bottle, or he loses some of his effectiveness. It's probably one of the few matchups where OD doesn't win completely (he still wins by a lot, but damn is it annoying)

If you really want to beat OD mid, lane Sniper against him.

Fuck that matchup.

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