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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 12 2013 12:52 GMT
#61541
Doesnt death dispel all buffs and debuffs?
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 12 2013 12:57 GMT
#61542
Sometimes it doesn't. I think Rupture stays on you when you buyback, and when you timelapse after buyback, it sends you where you died. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if X worked like that.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 13:15:42
June 12 2013 13:13 GMT
#61543
On June 12 2013 21:57 cecek wrote:
Sometimes it doesn't. I think Rupture stays on you when you buyback, and when you timelapse after buyback, it sends you where you died. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if X worked like that.


Timelapse isn't a buff though, it just checks where you were 5 seconds ago and sends you there. There's nothing to dispel. I'd think Glimpse would work, too, for the same reason.

Rupture staying on you is weird. What's the logic behind that?

dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
June 12 2013 13:15 GMT
#61544
On June 12 2013 21:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Doesnt death dispel all buffs and debuffs?

Not in Dota 2, but I don't think it's intentionall. A lot of bugs with quick respawns with bloodtone were fixed by this point. I am sure something is still bugged.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 12 2013 13:16 GMT
#61545
Rupture stays coz it's is a distance measuring debuff, wouldn't be surprised if it was some channeling spell casted by a dummy in wc3. All other spells that move you around aren't actually buffs
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Lysu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria21 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 13:28:51
June 12 2013 13:24 GMT
#61546
hey guys, do you find any games? Usually it only takes few minutes but now the search-range is full and the timer says 15minutes... restarting the search doesnt change anything
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 12 2013 13:34 GMT
#61547
On June 12 2013 22:24 Lysu wrote:
hey guys, do you find any games? Usually it only takes few minutes but now the search-range is full and the timer says 15minutes... restarting the search doesnt change anything

What are your settings for MM, are you on the main client, did you try restarting steam, etc
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 13:37:17
June 12 2013 13:36 GMT
#61548
Compendium games are a nice idea, but the skill/knowledge gap in these games is so huge. Especially enchantress, people are really really bad with her I just had a game where she just afk farmed in woods letting their gyro/rubick dual lane get destroyed by luna/nyx/sd. It really feels that these games are decided by the two players who pick the supports.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 12 2013 15:44 GMT
#61549
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#61550
On June 13 2013 00:44 hooahah wrote:
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers

TA*
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:08:03
June 12 2013 15:51 GMT
#61551
On June 12 2013 22:24 Lysu wrote:
hey guys, do you find any games? Usually it only takes few minutes but now the search-range is full and the timer says 15minutes... restarting the search doesnt change anything


Are you on Dota2 or Dota2 Test Client?

On June 12 2013 21:48 cecek wrote:
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On June 12 2013 21:31 Yoshi- wrote:
Does X dispel on death?

Not sure, actually. You're thinking about some X marks the spot + buyback tricks, huh? That could be fun.



Doesn't work, with bloodstone anyway.
It's odd because the X and trail is still there, but you just don't get teleported back.

Still a lot of fun interactions to be had, Chen/Kunkka for example. Need to buy wards/recipe, no need for courier. Just Test of Faith and X a moment before he leaves
Just a small taste of how great dota can be
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 15:54:37
June 12 2013 15:53 GMT
#61552
On June 13 2013 00:50 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:44 hooahah wrote:
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers

TA*

no, PA. Treant's heal gives a refraction-like effect. though the thought of a Treant perma-healing TA is already making my balls shiver in fear, it's like godmode in a multiplayer game
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
June 12 2013 15:54 GMT
#61553
Speaking of TA+Treant. I am definitely trying that today. Dive for days.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 12 2013 15:56 GMT
#61554
Any of you get the pop-up message when you start the Dota 2 client about recent actions against someone you've reported - everytime you launch the client? It must be a bug or something.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 12 2013 15:58 GMT
#61555
On June 13 2013 00:56 Grettin wrote:
Any of you get the pop-up message when you start the Dota 2 client about recent actions against someone you've reported - everytime you launch the client? It must be a bug or something.

Yep I have this, get it every time I start dota.

Either its a bug or valve is just really intent on letting me know what a good contribution im making to the community
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 12 2013 15:59 GMT
#61556
Yeah, i thought so i'm not alone. Thanks!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3459 Posts
June 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#61557
On June 13 2013 00:53 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:50 cilinder007 wrote:
On June 13 2013 00:44 hooahah wrote:
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers

TA*

no, PA. Treant's heal gives a refraction-like effect. though the thought of a Treant perma-healing TA is already making my balls shiver in fear, it's like godmode in a multiplayer game

Well RS tried that vs DK the other day. Didn't go so well
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:17:39
June 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#61558
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:18:16
June 12 2013 16:17 GMT
#61559
On June 13 2013 00:53 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:50 cilinder007 wrote:
On June 13 2013 00:44 hooahah wrote:
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers

TA*

no, PA. Treant's heal gives a refraction-like effect. though the thought of a Treant perma-healing TA is already making my balls shiver in fear, it's like godmode in a multiplayer game

The interaction between those two spells is actually pretty wonky because they are triggered heals and are actually supposed to stack both effects when a damage instance triggers them. In DotA 1, the Refraction "blocks" the damage entirely, and THEN Living Armor is supposed to HEAL you 20/40/60/80 more damage on top of that.

As is, the Living Armor effect is actually pretty much wasted because both spells lose a charge when you take damage, but you don't get an additional effect from the Living Armor. It's not as good to pair them as it was in DotA 1.

Refraction + Shallow Grave was probably the funniest interaction because together the two provide a combined effect basically equivalent to Abaddon's ultimate (Shallow Grave applies a triggered heal that leaves you at 1 HP, Refraction applies a triggered heal for the damage dealt, so if you are at 1 HP and have both active, you should get healed for an amount equal to the damage taken).
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:19:31
June 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#61560
On June 13 2013 00:54 TheEmulator wrote:
Speaking of TA+Treant. I am definitely trying that today. Dive for days.

Weaver + Tree is also really fun.

On June 13 2013 01:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:53 hooahah wrote:
On June 13 2013 00:50 cilinder007 wrote:
On June 13 2013 00:44 hooahah wrote:
just had the pleasure of playing with a Treant that healed the mid PA 24/7. PA would dive people with 200hp and be completely fine because healing+refraction

this shit is fucking bonkers

TA*

no, PA. Treant's heal gives a refraction-like effect. though the thought of a Treant perma-healing TA is already making my balls shiver in fear, it's like godmode in a multiplayer game

The interaction between those two spells is actually pretty wonky because they are triggered heals and are actually supposed to stack both effects when a damage instance triggers them. In DotA 1, the Refraction "blocks" the damage entirely, and THEN Living Armor is supposed to HEAL you 20/40/60/80 more damage on top of that.

As is, the Living Armor effect is actually pretty much wasted because both spells lose a charge when you take damage, but you don't get an additional effect from the Living Armor. It's not as good to pair them as it was in DotA 1.

Refraction + Shallow Grave was probably the funniest interaction because together the two provide a combined effect basically equivalent to Abaddon's ultimate (Shallow Grave applies a triggered heal that leaves you at 1 HP, Refraction applies a triggered heal for the damage dealt, so if you are at 1 HP and have both active, you should get healed for an amount equal to the damage taken).

You could chain Refraction and Living Armor. Start with Refraction then when the defensive charges run out have Tree Living Armor you.
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