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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 08 2013 16:53 GMT
#60941
Dota 2 Item drop rate sucks. I've played 10 hours and about 13 games and had 2 chests drop for me -.-.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Oceanic
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States122 Posts
June 08 2013 17:01 GMT
#60942
Hey guys I just wanted to ask about 2 particular items on 2 heroes. I played hon before dota2 and in hon for the equivalents of kunkka and jugg, it would be considered trash to get bf on kunkka and aghs on jugg. In dota2 though I see people get these items, even pros getting these items on those heroes on occasion. Is this just a dumb thing like bf on bh or are bf kunkka and aghs jugg legit item builds in dota2?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 17:07:35
June 08 2013 17:03 GMT
#60943
Aghs on Jugg is completelly legit and a very good item, mainly if you are not the main carry though. BF on Kunkka is more a fun build, it's quite old. It's not really optimal but I wouldn't say it's terrible enough to complain about.

It's not really the same as BF BH because the big issue with BF BH is that you are not supposed to be farming, you are supposed to be killing. A farming Kunkka isn't that bad, but you already farm pretty well without it and you can fight early really well with other items, so it's just not really optimal.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 08 2013 17:04 GMT
#60944
Aghs is legit jugg item in dota 2. Those extra bounces hurtttttttttttttt if you can get it early enough.

BF is kinda trash on kunkka their are better items to get like crit or shadowblade.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 08 2013 17:06 GMT
#60945
Everytime I omnislash with Agha I yell I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch at my screen.

it makes my Omnislashes hit on exactly the targets I want them too

its true.
WriterXiao8~~
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 17:21:07
June 08 2013 17:12 GMT
#60946
Personally I don't ever get BF on Kunkka but I can see why people do.

Some people get BF on Kunkka because it enables you to farm freely and fast, as it fixes your problems with regen. Kunkka doesn't really kill jungle camps that fast with a shadow blade first, especially when he can't use a torrent, so you end up tanking the creeps for a pretty good while. A bfury not only lets you kill camps fast, it allows you to use your torrent more and heals you up after. It's perhaps not worth the cost and not really useful at all for what you'll be doing later in the game, regardless of the cleave stack, when regen isn't your issue, and it gives you much lesser midgame potential which is the heros primary strength in competitive games, but the #1 reason why people still do it is because it unarguably feels like the nicer progression as you farm fast and don't have to worry about going to base and whatnot. I've never seen anyone get bfury in competitive games, for good reason, but these are the reasons people in pubs sometimes opt for it.

Most decent Kunkkas will opt for a bottle instead, but that doesn't entirely fix his problems (and certainly not if you don't have the rune luck and/or don't spend most of your time mid). You often see casual rings of health when laning in the safelane, even. After that the item progression is beyond obvious, of course.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 08 2013 17:14 GMT
#60947
I believe Kuroky went BF on Kunkka in a game, so that may be the one he is talking about. But Puppey went BKB MKB on Lina on that game, Kuro later on got 2 Burizas and Dendi finished the game with Blink Dagger, 2 Yashas and Linkens on Mirana.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 19:13:58
June 08 2013 17:27 GMT
#60948
Singsing have gone BF on kunkka in a few occasions as well, though a long time ago
"Yeah buddy"
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 08 2013 17:32 GMT
#60949
On June 09 2013 02:27 Ramong wrote:
Singsing have gode BF on kunkka in a fem occasions as well, though a long time ago

Sick danglish.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 17:41:44
June 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#60950
Almost understood everything. Fem was the hardest part, because it reminded me of five.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#60951
On June 09 2013 02:04 Benjef wrote:
BF is kinda trash on kunkka their are better items to get like crit or shadowblade.

What? If you're planning to farm on kunkka BF is completely legit.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 08 2013 18:05 GMT
#60952
On June 09 2013 02:48 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 02:04 Benjef wrote:
BF is kinda trash on kunkka their are better items to get like crit or shadowblade.

What? If you're planning to farm on kunkka BF is completely legit.


phase + 5 bfs 4eva
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#60953
ulti stick on jugg in dota is better than in hon
you get 1 more slash than you do in hon, linkens doesn't block it, each slash does slightly more damage, and plus jugg doesn't carry nearly as hard as swiftblade since he doesn't get counterattack and can't autoattack during spin

bfury isn't common on kunkka. it's okay as an all-in-one farming item, since it covers your hp regen and mp regen, but generally other items work much better (like lothars + bottle)
bfury + lothars ohkos creep waves which is kinda fun tho
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
June 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#60954
11 game win streak with 5 stack

absolutely terrified to solo queue now
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 08 2013 20:11 GMT
#60955
real man solo que
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 20:14:48
June 08 2013 20:12 GMT
#60956
On June 09 2013 03:46 Klonere wrote:
11 game win streak with 5 stack

absolutely terrified to solo queue now


i hate people who 5-man pubstomp..

but i cant hate you because ur irish and tler.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 20:20:36
June 08 2013 20:18 GMT
#60957
So for the past year from next week I will have been in Sweden for a total of 2 weeks over that time. Ironically, both 2 trips were during dreamhack. Meaning that I couldn't watch dreamhack, because I was in Sweden

-.-

The extent of my dreamhack Winter experience was I think I saw Dignitas leaving at the airport when I was flying home to London.
Once you Goblak...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 20:22:21
June 08 2013 20:20 GMT
#60958
do you live in UK for the most of the year then? (somehow i have that image in my head that you live in UK..) You said you did freelancing, what exactly if i may ask+

e. and there's the answer to the first question.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 20:23:05
June 08 2013 20:22 GMT
#60959
Yes I went to uni in London and then graduated 2 years ago, so guess I've been here for 6 years. I work as a freelance designer and web developer.

Although I haven't lived in Sweden for like 12 years anyway, but I visit twice a year usually.
Once you Goblak...
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 20:24:12
June 08 2013 20:23 GMT
#60960
On June 09 2013 05:20 Grettin wrote:
do you live in UK for the most of the year then? (somehow i have that image in my head that you live in UK..) You said you did freelancing, what exactly if i may ask+

e. and there's the answer to the first question.


something to do with porn, according to 80% of the posts from teapoted.

edit: ninja'ed D: i am disappointed teapoted,
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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