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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On June 06 2013 19:06 Velr wrote: More bounces = more viabilty in a teamfight-centric lineup = higher chance to get picked. On it's own it's still a "weakish" ult.. But combined with some wtf-aecombo (Darkseer/RP/Blackhole) it's a serious problem... Or just chronosphere. :3 | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 06 2013 19:19 renfree wrote: AA's ult is currently bugged - debuff cannot be removed by anything, including Manta or BKB. So broken, especially if he has Aghanims. the only bugs with it is that you can suicide with it. Also you can debuff it with euls. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On June 06 2013 19:19 renfree wrote: AA's ult is currently bugged - debuff cannot be removed by anything, including Manta or BKB. So broken, especially if he has Aghanims. brb instapicking AA from now on | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10953 Posts
On June 06 2013 19:20 Itsmedudeman wrote: And frost armor is weak? You think 9 armor on a 5 second cooldown that slows movement speed and attack speed is weak? Obviously there's some strong auras in the game, but it is anything but weak. Yes, i think it's weak when compared to other Buffs... It's sure as hell worse than Empower which is just gamechanging when certain heroes get it... Same to a lesser extend goes for Bloodlust... You'll notice if that PA/AM/Bear have Bloodlust.. Cause they use it in every fight, Frost armor does not stop your supports from getting blown up, it does nothing against magic damage.... Svens Warcry is better in most cases and thats not even single target Not that it's useless, it just pales to other stuff ingame. | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
Will miss never misblinking and always getting the max range though. Also it was fucking excellent for Timber Chain. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
17 duration Frostbite is of course good. Still not worth the cost I feel. But Agh Doom I can now say is legit. Rattlesnake Luo gonna love this hero even more now. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On June 06 2013 21:35 SpiZe wrote: So, for someone who never used range finder and whatnot... what did Valve remove, the line or the circle ? The circle | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
On June 06 2013 21:30 FakeDeath wrote: Agh AA isn't that good. 17 duration Frostbite is of course good. Still not worth the cost I feel. It's worth it because AA doesn't need any items himself, the items you typically build on the hero don't do anything for his own potential, but you get them for your team because what the fuck else are you gonna build on AA. He doesn't need Arcanes, he doesn't benefit from forcestaff, he is a pretty atrocious Mek carrier because of the positioning it forces on him. Normally if you're playing "selfish"/other heroes in your team are taking care of the aforementioned items you'll get either a quick Eul's or a quick Atos. I don't see any reason why any of these items is better that Agh's. Even as a luxury after being forced to get the "team items", where your only real choice is Sheepstick I can see Agh's not only being more useful unless the enemy has like 3+ bkb's, but also being actually feasible to build in most games due to the nicer buildup. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
Valve's next Dota 2 documentary, Free to Play, is almost done, we've learned. They're privately showing it off to "playtesters" all throughout June. http://kotaku.com/valves-got-a-new-movie-is-privately-showing-it-next-w-511571946 | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 06 2013 20:29 Firebolt145 wrote: You could always suicide from AA ult if you dealt the damage to yourself that ticked your HP under the threshold. You also could never get rid of the debuff with BKB or manta. No bugs. Im fairly certain that you couldnt suicide with aa ult in dota1. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
On June 06 2013 19:54 Erasme wrote: the only bugs with it is that you can suicide with it. Also you can debuff it with euls. Isn't there meant to be some weird bug with refresher orb and AA's ult? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On June 06 2013 22:14 Erasme wrote: Im fairly certain that you couldnt suicide with aa ult in dota1. Perhaps, but it's always worked that way in dota 2. It's certainly not something new. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 06 2013 20:29 Firebolt145 wrote: You could always suicide from AA ult if you dealt the damage to yourself that ticked your HP under the threshold. You also could never get rid of the debuff with BKB or manta. No bugs. In DotA 1, suicides under AA ult were credited to AA. As far as getting rid of the buff, the buff was always purge-able, but not removed by Magic Immunity. It wouldn't damage magic immune units, but the HP freeze and shatter effect would still be valid on them. EDIT: But yes, the suicides thing is a known bug from before. EDIT 2: Ok, doing some digging up, AA ult interaction with some buff removal is actually kind of wonky. Basically, if the Ice Blast buff is removed, it is triggered to reapply itself if you are not damaged for 0.5 seconds. Purge, Cyclone, Dark Pact, and Kraken Shell are triggered to provide a 0 damage damage instance in order to cancel this part of the spell. Manta does NOT do this, so it should remove AA ult *most of the time* but not always (if you don't get damaged in 0.5 seconds it should re-apply itself). In short, the expected DotA 1 behavior for Ice Blast in relation to magic immunity/purge/manta: - Magic Immunity: prevents damage from the DoT, does not remove the buff and therefore allows the HP freeze and shatter effects - Purge, Cyclone, Dark Pact/Kraken Shell: removes the buff completely - Manta Style/Mirror Image: Removes instance of the debuff, re-applied if not damaged within 0.5 seconds | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
On June 06 2013 22:15 Asymmetric wrote: Isn't there meant to be some weird bug with refresher orb and AA's ult? Some anecdotal confirmation Basically, if you fire the tracer and then refresh before firing the blast, ulting again immediately allows you to shoot the ult with pinpoint accuracy and then shoot a normal ult with the fired tracer. Tested in bot mode with refresher orb, without wtf mode on. Feel free to follow my steps to verify for yourself, as I have no video-making client on my computer to record the process in action. Source: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/828937979129673298/ | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On June 06 2013 11:15 FinestHour wrote: or just take some time to learn ranges and do it like people have been doing since forever I never used the range finder so I'm at least 1.56987 times better after the patch while noobs run around missing skills and being out of range. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Seems fair. Also, I can vouch for being able to kill yourself with Morph against an AA ult (oh, back when I was a noob...) Can't remember if it gives you a suicide or gives credit for a kill or not. | ||
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