EPTOD needed to counter
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
OD needed to counter | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 01 2013 04:08 cecek wrote: Actually, he literally takes 0 magical damage. It seems to be IceFrog's new favorite "gimmick". Medusa's ultimate gives the stoned targets 100% magic resistance and physical amplification, and same does one of the Oracle's spells. Well, he has the same basestr and agi and same growth. So if you buy an eblade, you will definitely have more agi than strength. Even with armlet and perhaps another source of str? I don't think you would rush Eblade anyway. Either way he has 1 point of agi more thans str and same growth, much better is really stretching it. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Huskar in the current version is a farming hero that uses Berserker's Blood at ~30-40% to maintain a disgustingly high jungle farming efficiency while playing 1-man DotA until he has Armlet+BKB (teamfighting before BKB is pretty much impractical against any reasonable teamcomp that doesn't lack nukes/disables). Huskar in 6.78 trades away some of that ridiculous farming ability (since pure attack speed won't farm as fast as mixed stats unless you have damage items as well), but instead the skill becomes an overall stronger combat passive at an earlier timing due to making him nigh-invulnerable to nukes past a certain point (and nigh-invulnerable, period, for 4 seconds with Ghost Scepter). On June 01 2013 04:08 cecek wrote: Well, he has the same basestr and agi and same growth. So if you buy an eblade, you will definitely have more agi than strength. Except you don't want to be buying that much Agi. The hero has a ridiculous attack speed and magic resistance passive, so your 3 primary needs are damage, armor, and HP, of which two are granted by Strength. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 01 2013 04:14 SKC wrote: Well, some of his old issues were that he was a single target hero that you could just disable and burst down if he got low on health. He was a great ganking hero but didn't do that much in teamfights. Some of that still remains, the main diference is he is so much harder to burst down now that it may be enough. This is actually somewhat of a misconception, IMO. He's a good solo-killing and counter-killing hero, but a weak ganking hero. He's strong at 1v1ing against one or more heroes that come to find him, but when he and his teammates are the aggressors, his ganking ability is actually poor because he needs to use his ult to engage a gank, which simultaneously puts him in the danger zone and costs a lot of life, and you have no outs. Without it, he can't engage well, and with it, he's very easily counter-ganked, particularly if the gank requires you to dive. The hero's tempo is essentially as a farming hero to the point where he has Armlet+BKB, making use of the fact that proper Berserker's Blood stack management lets you farm jungle blindingly fast and do Ancients at level 7. He can participate in counterganks and solo kills, but he's essentially playing one-man DotA until that point because your contribution to the game is very poor before then. This is consequently why he's a poor competitive hero, because a hero that ignores his teammates and plays 1-man DotA is unsuitable for a 5-man competitive game. Most pub Huskar's tend to think that he is a ganker and try too hard to make something of his dead weight early game fighting ability, which is why they fail so often. Your timing isn't in the first 10 minutes, it's flash-farming a 15-20 min Armlet+BKB and using your item advantage to win the game. EDIT: Of course, this change fundamentally alters the hero's tempo because, as I said, it trades away the farming power for vastly higher combat ability at fewer items. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 01 2013 04:17 PrinceXizor wrote: his ult does magic damage to himself right? that means that with aghanims on huskar, at low health he can keep jumping at no cost every 4 seconds to reduce peoples hp by half? IN fact, at 51% max hp, life break will cost 8% of current hp, and deal 65% of enemies current hp with aghanims. so with 2k max hp you are only taking 80 damage from life break. thats negligible altogether. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
apparently everyone else was in-game, but i was just stuck on loading screen. Well, got abandon. Great. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 01 2013 04:43 PrinceXizor wrote: This might seem weird. but can we put a Heart next to dota academy instead of dotabuff, given all the bad/scummy things dotabuff has done and all the positive thing the bruno's have done? and then it being pro based is probably more TL-y anyway. Well, the problem is that dotabuff and dota academy serve completely different functions, and dota academy doesn't stay up to date quite often (as the Bruno's dont have the time to allocate to it). I don't see the point really. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On June 01 2013 04:48 Comeh wrote: Well, the problem is that dotabuff and dota academy serve completely different functions, and dota academy doesn't stay up to date quite often (as the Bruno's dont have the time to allocate to it). I don't see the point really. they are both listed under "dota statistics" and dota academy does that far better. and i don't see why TL should support stuff like dotabuff. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
Timbersaw, Undying (if he can get a bit of farm), Death Prophet I suspect. Possibly Storm Spirit or Axe, although thats debatable. Anyone else? Maybe leshrac or Sky Wrath in certain situations? | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
The interaction between pounce and skewer. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yJTGQfh.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RFonxXE.png) Every 10 games or so I get shitted on by someone. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/n8INRGH.png) | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
 can you spoiler those for size. sry torte T_T | ||
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Grettin
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On June 01 2013 05:07 PrinceXizor wrote: can you spoiler those for size. sry torte T_Tgg murica internet also fun rumour is that lgdint stopped learning chinese because misery started dating the teacher rofl | ||
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