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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 03:51:48
May 28 2013 03:48 GMT
#58661
Aui made a point about 5 man smoke ganks being too obvious, and that's why he preferred smaller smoke ganks. I never really thought about that, but I really appreciated that.

I also remember Puppey casting a previous league, DK vs IG, and he talked about how Burning made a mistake in not waiting to pull creeps with the bear and that probably lost him the game (he ended up like level 2 while naix was 6). And also that IG didn't realize you couldn't pull the scourge hard camp without cutting a tree. I would have thought burning just got outplayed, but it turns dota from a game of this player is good and this player is bad into a game about decisions and knowledge.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 04:03:55
May 28 2013 03:49 GMT
#58662
On May 28 2013 12:47 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 12:45 teapoted wrote:
On May 28 2013 12:39 igotmyown wrote:
On May 28 2013 12:04 FakeDeath wrote:
Aui is not a good co caster.
IMO he nitspick a bit too excessively on player item choice and build.
That's why it will ruined the viewing experience.

IMO The best co-caster and analyst will be Winter paired with either LD or Godz.
A balance of good criticism and praising.


Aui is a good co-caster.

If he stopped commenting on player item choice and build, I would just assume it is right and try to come up with reasons to justify it. Then I would copy it in games, assume it's right, without really knowing why. Then I'd be worse at the game, stupider about the game, and not appreciate the thought that goes into it. I might as well turn on music or turn off the commentary at that point.
That's why him changing ruins the viewing experience.
Why does everything have to be so black and white?

There's a balance that can be struck between providing insight while not making the players look terrible and the viewers think you're being negative constantly.

Why does everything have to be so black and white?

Some people can enjoy his casts, and others can think he's overly negative or critical.
You don't get my point.

People don't complain about Winter or Maelk being overly negative. Because they aren't. Yet they don't sugercoat anything.

You might always have someone who complains. But to the amount that people in the LR and the chat, you're doing something wrong then. You can tone something down without removing it. I would choose to listen to Aui over most player-caster because he has mechanical knowledge that almost no one else does who casts, but even I started to roll my eyes at some of those casts.
Once you Goblak...
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 28 2013 04:02 GMT
#58663
On May 28 2013 12:12 Dubzex wrote:


Interview from GosuGamers with TC and Bulba.


im now really confused if arteezy is really THAT good or Bulba just exaggerating things. im naive.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 28 2013 04:05 GMT
#58664
On May 28 2013 13:02 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 12:12 Dubzex wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuk4UGrEI7Q

Interview from GosuGamers with TC and Bulba.


im now really confused if arteezy is really THAT good or Bulba just exaggerating things. im naive.

Did you see TC's face?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 28 2013 04:06 GMT
#58665
On May 28 2013 13:05 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:02 icystorage wrote:
On May 28 2013 12:12 Dubzex wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuk4UGrEI7Q

Interview from GosuGamers with TC and Bulba.


im now really confused if arteezy is really THAT good or Bulba just exaggerating things. im naive.

Did you see TC's face?

As an aside TC is... always smiling if somebody is looking at him. He can't help it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 28 2013 04:34 GMT
#58666
?

A-god is probably too good for iG of course they would want him.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2013 06:02 GMT
#58667
So i learned how to Lone Druid

Game was hard.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
May 28 2013 06:03 GMT
#58668
On May 28 2013 12:47 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 12:45 teapoted wrote:
On May 28 2013 12:39 igotmyown wrote:
On May 28 2013 12:04 FakeDeath wrote:
Aui is not a good co caster.
IMO he nitspick a bit too excessively on player item choice and build.
That's why it will ruined the viewing experience.

IMO The best co-caster and analyst will be Winter paired with either LD or Godz.
A balance of good criticism and praising.


Aui is a good co-caster.

If he stopped commenting on player item choice and build, I would just assume it is right and try to come up with reasons to justify it. Then I would copy it in games, assume it's right, without really knowing why. Then I'd be worse at the game, stupider about the game, and not appreciate the thought that goes into it. I might as well turn on music or turn off the commentary at that point.
That's why him changing ruins the viewing experience.
Why does everything have to be so black and white?

There's a balance that can be struck between providing insight while not making the players look terrible and the viewers think you're being negative constantly.

Why does everything have to be so black and white?

Some people can enjoy his casts, and others can think he's overly negative or critical.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 12:46 FinestHour wrote:
reading theorycraft about treant protector was better then reading pages of shit about a website that doesnt even matter


Agreed. I need to figure out how to optimize carry tree - I feel like BF isn't the way to go on him.


then what would you use your Perseverance for ? Linken ? pffftt
Put quote here for readability
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 28 2013 06:03 GMT
#58669
On May 28 2013 15:02 Shaella wrote:
So i learned how to Lone Druid

Game was hard.

I have a habit of overplaying overpow...
er, Playing heroes like LD way too much to learn the intricacies of him.

http://dotabuff.com/players/26938848
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2013 06:06 GMT
#58670
On May 28 2013 15:03 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 15:02 Shaella wrote:
So i learned how to Lone Druid

Game was hard.

I have a habit of overplaying overpow...
er, Playing heroes like LD way too much to learn the intricacies of him.

http://dotabuff.com/players/26938848

Ah yes. I too have this issue. I just enjoy playing.. Ah.. heros that are considered.. High tier so I can understand their complexities

I have just begun Lone Druid and I think its going to be a beautiful relationship

http://dotabuff.com/players/33136694
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 28 2013 06:07 GMT
#58671
On May 28 2013 15:06 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 15:03 Comeh wrote:
On May 28 2013 15:02 Shaella wrote:
So i learned how to Lone Druid

Game was hard.

I have a habit of overplaying overpow...
er, Playing heroes like LD way too much to learn the intricacies of him.

http://dotabuff.com/players/26938848

Ah yes. I too have this issue. I just enjoy playing.. Ah.. heros that are considered.. High tier so I can understand their complexities

I have just begun Lone Druid and I think its going to be a beautiful relationship

http://dotabuff.com/players/33136694

Well, the nice thing about LD is that I can stop from whoever normally would feed in the offlane, and still play a hero that can carry the game.

I can pretty much instant lock him and lane anywhere and be fine with it.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2013 06:10 GMT
#58672
On May 28 2013 15:07 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 15:06 Shaella wrote:
On May 28 2013 15:03 Comeh wrote:
On May 28 2013 15:02 Shaella wrote:
So i learned how to Lone Druid

Game was hard.

I have a habit of overplaying overpow...
er, Playing heroes like LD way too much to learn the intricacies of him.

http://dotabuff.com/players/26938848

Ah yes. I too have this issue. I just enjoy playing.. Ah.. heros that are considered.. High tier so I can understand their complexities

I have just begun Lone Druid and I think its going to be a beautiful relationship

http://dotabuff.com/players/33136694

Well, the nice thing about LD is that I can stop from whoever normally would feed in the offlane, and still play a hero that can carry the game.

I can pretty much instant lock him and lane anywhere and be fine with it.

I decided to learn him because i tend to always get a jungler, i'd rather send a duo lane to the offlane (most pubs can do that just fine, and stop the pulls too), and its much easier to solo safelane him than with my last project, one Phantom Lancer
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
May 28 2013 06:12 GMT
#58673
http://dotabuff.com/players/75615822

old main acc (no longer used for personal preferences)

Not that much since my games for LD is not that Bulldog high

I haven't play LD since 2-3 month before the advent of armlet though
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 28 2013 06:24 GMT
#58674
So many admiral bulldogs in this thread.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2013 06:26 GMT
#58675
On May 28 2013 15:24 Alur wrote:
So many admiral bulldogs in this thread.

I aspire to have #rootgaming like bulldog
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 28 2013 06:27 GMT
#58676
Whenever I play tree I wanna become Admiral Treedog. Dat antipush stall too beautiful.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
May 28 2013 06:41 GMT
#58677
woah Purge's 'stash is really going places.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 28 2013 06:44 GMT
#58678
On May 28 2013 12:48 igotmyown wrote:
Aui made a point about 5 man smoke ganks being too obvious, and that's why he preferred smaller smoke ganks. I never really thought about that, but I really appreciated that.

I also remember Puppey casting a previous league, DK vs IG, and he talked about how Burning made a mistake in not waiting to pull creeps with the bear and that probably lost him the game (he ended up like level 2 while naix was 6). And also that IG didn't realize you couldn't pull the scourge hard camp without cutting a tree. I would have thought burning just got outplayed, but it turns dota from a game of this player is good and this player is bad into a game about decisions and knowledge.

the funny thing is that all pro supports should know that you cant pull that hard camp without the tree since its a significant difference from wc3 dota where u can actually pull it without cutting the tree
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
May 28 2013 07:00 GMT
#58679
i think ld will be nerfed next patch
don't play that hero guys
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2013 07:04 GMT
#58680
On May 28 2013 16:00 Cool Cat wrote:
i think ld will be nerfed next patch
don't play that hero guys

So? He'll still be good/ more hipster
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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