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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 20 2013 21:01 GMT
#57681
Can someone explain to me like I'm five how Papa John's is helping esports? I don't see any connection at all, this all seems just like they told EG and TL "Promote the fuck out of this and we'll give you money." And somehow they're trying to make it look like we should care "in the name of esports."
super gg
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 20 2013 21:02 GMT
#57682
The 'we'll give you money' part.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:05:39
May 20 2013 21:05 GMT
#57683
On May 21 2013 06:01 cecek wrote:
Can someone explain to me like I'm five how Papa John's is helping esports? I don't see any connection at all, this all seems just like they told EG and TL "Promote the fuck out of this and we'll give you money." And somehow they're trying to make it look like we should care "in the name of esports."

Think of it this way then: Papa johns is going to spend their money to do two things:

promote a cause (Whatever the cause is) and sell more pizzas. you can't stop the second one, but we can direct the first one. If papa johns views the promotion as successful it may become a yearly promotion, giving money to various esports groups every year to do the promotion.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:08:38
May 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#57684
On May 21 2013 05:37 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:36 kollin wrote:
SO HOW BOUT THAT TREANT GUYS

I'D LOVE ME A MANGIX THANK YOU VERY MUCH


Mangix???? is that a lol champion?
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
May 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#57685
On May 21 2013 05:11 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 05:09 FinestHour wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:04 Comeh wrote:
On May 21 2013 05:03 FinestHour wrote:
papa johns is like the only good chain pizza nowadays maybe little caesars cuz 5 dolllars per medium

papa johns is awful.

Really.

Really.

Bad.

Also I don't like their policies / outward speaking about social / economic issues (obamacare).

I'm pretty split about this all :|


do u have a papa johns story to share with us

I ordered pizza from there.

It was bad.


if you wrote a blog i'd 5 star it
dont ever say that
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 20 2013 21:09 GMT
#57686
ESPORTS guy tell friends about TL/EG and the Papa John's deal with cheap pizza > friends gets exposed to ESPORTS > if friends stick around and find it interesting they will probably end up supporting EG or TL because everyone else does it > they buy mechanical keyboards because you can't be a good player without it + SUPPORT ESPORTS if they buy that mechanical keyboard.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#57687
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...
super gg
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#57688
My twitter feed is 95% pizza related, 5% 2GD and Inc fighting about pizza
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:14:42
May 20 2013 21:12 GMT
#57689
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Because when you first take a step into a new field as a business. you don't just close your eyes and leap. you test the ground first. if there is no money to be made from esports marketing, they won't continue to put money into it. These sort of double sided promotions are incredibly common in advertising. i expose you if you expose me, we both profit for little to no early investment, then both sides find out if its lucrative, if it is and they get a good return on the investment, they invest more and more. Dominos started its venture into sports by selling pizzas at baseball and football games, and now they put their name on the stadium for millions a year.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 20 2013 21:15 GMT
#57690
You also have to remember that when monster started sponsoring eg a lot of energy drink companies came into esports, and I imagine the sane would happen here.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 20 2013 21:16 GMT
#57691
On May 21 2013 06:15 kollin wrote:
You also have to remember that when monster started sponsoring eg a lot of energy drink companies came into esports, and I imagine the sane would happen here.

if we get lil ceasars and dominos into esports we are 40-50% of the way there to stadium sized tournaments.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 20 2013 21:16 GMT
#57692
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Well, part of the issue is that if this is a successful campaign, it will promote from other organizations that typically aren't associated with esports to become more interested in sponsoring teams + tournaments.

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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#57693
? monster sponsor one team (eg) and redbull were in esports well before them with the Halo thing. I'm not aware of any other energy drink companies getting involved. not counting hot6ix or whatever, thats a completely different market.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
May 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#57694
On May 21 2013 06:11 Klonere wrote:
My twitter feed is 95% pizza related, 5% 2GD and Inc fighting about pizza


Yeah, same here... Well, Inc & 2gd are fighting about opinions and that usual stuff as well.

Cristian Tamaş @Trancez0r
@EGiNcontroL The 3 people who need twitter curators in e-sports: 1) @MLGSundance 2) @robertohlen 3) @follow2GD
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 20 2013 21:18 GMT
#57695
On May 21 2013 06:16 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Well, part of the issue is that if this is a successful campaign, it will promote from other organizations that typically aren't associated with esports to become more interested in sponsoring teams + tournaments.


We need Starbucks to get into the Esports business. Valve in Seattle + dat starbucks money.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 20 2013 21:19 GMT
#57696
On May 21 2013 06:17 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:11 Klonere wrote:
My twitter feed is 95% pizza related, 5% 2GD and Inc fighting about pizza


Yeah, same here... Well, Inc & 2gd are fighting about opinions and that usual stuff as well.

Show nested quote +
Cristian Tamaş @Trancez0r
@EGiNcontroL The 3 people who need twitter curators in e-sports: 1) @MLGSundance 2) @robertohlen 3) @follow2GD

As if iNc has never said anything insulting / controversial ever.

I appreciate 2GD's trolling tbh.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 20 2013 21:19 GMT
#57697
On May 21 2013 06:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:16 Comeh wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Well, part of the issue is that if this is a successful campaign, it will promote from other organizations that typically aren't associated with esports to become more interested in sponsoring teams + tournaments.


We need Starbucks to get into the Esports business. Valve in Seattle + dat starbucks money.

OMFG I'D BE IN FOR THAT ONE
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#57698
On May 21 2013 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:16 Comeh wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Well, part of the issue is that if this is a successful campaign, it will promote from other organizations that typically aren't associated with esports to become more interested in sponsoring teams + tournaments.


We need Starbucks to get into the Esports business. Valve in Seattle + dat starbucks money.

OMFG I'D BE IN FOR THAT ONE

Starbucks has their own set of issues im sure...

But fuck am I weak for those lattes.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
May 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#57699
On May 21 2013 06:19 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:17 Grettin wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:11 Klonere wrote:
My twitter feed is 95% pizza related, 5% 2GD and Inc fighting about pizza


Yeah, same here... Well, Inc & 2gd are fighting about opinions and that usual stuff as well.

Cristian Tamaş @Trancez0r
@EGiNcontroL The 3 people who need twitter curators in e-sports: 1) @MLGSundance 2) @robertohlen 3) @follow2GD

As if iNc has never said anything insulting / controversial ever.

I appreciate 2GD's trolling tbh.


It gets bland after ~4-5years.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 21:25:30
May 20 2013 21:22 GMT
#57700
On May 21 2013 06:20 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:19 r.Evo wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:16 Comeh wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:11 cecek wrote:
I don't see the connection... So I should just buy Pizza, so that EG gets money? If I wanted to give money to EG, I'd just donate to them, not buy Pizza.

I mean, distributing promo codes could be done in any community, I don't see how that has anything to do with esports, it just feels like milking loyal fans. Why don't they sponsor a tournament, or a team? Or anything, really...

Well, part of the issue is that if this is a successful campaign, it will promote from other organizations that typically aren't associated with esports to become more interested in sponsoring teams + tournaments.


We need Starbucks to get into the Esports business. Valve in Seattle + dat starbucks money.

OMFG I'D BE IN FOR THAT ONE

Starbucks has their own set of issues im sure...

But fuck am I weak for those lattes.

They charge out the ass for owning a franchise, and misrepresent the healthiness of their food. but they are a pretty socially forward company. the consumer pays for that forwardness with increased costs though.

The important thing to know about the Pizza industry is that all the products are roughly identical. the only separation are the slight recipe variations, and the advertisement. these types of industries are the ones that spend the most money in the world on advertising. Getting these companies into an ad war over our demographic only benefits us.
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