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On May 18 2013 05:11 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 04:56 TheYango wrote:
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well. I suppose that's true, but it feel really odd about what is purgable versus what isn't, and the fact that the side effects with the purge vary so widely (ie slow, damage to illusions etc etc), but we consider them consistent characteristics with the purge.
Well if you consider that AoE purges don't target ancients while single target purges do affect ancients then they're consistent. Assuming this is kinda out of left field though I suppose, but dota2 has a horrible interface for including unit classifications and various damage/armor types.
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I alwais get so nervous when i queue with wind runner.
Please give me the baaaaaaaammmmmbo strenght.
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On May 18 2013 05:13 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone know the name of the male and female chinese casters?
For what event and their real names or their handles?
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On May 18 2013 05:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 05:11 Comeh wrote:On May 18 2013 04:56 TheYango wrote:
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well. I suppose that's true, but it feel really odd about what is purgable versus what isn't, and the fact that the side effects with the purge vary so widely (ie slow, damage to illusions etc etc), but we consider them consistent characteristics with the purge. but dota2 has a horrible interface for including unit classifications and various damage/armor types.
Actually totally agree about this.
Its less relevant as dota doesn't vary TOO much in those fields (as opposed to say vanilla WC3), but it would be nice to have some place to check these things easily ingame.
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On May 18 2013 05:11 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 04:56 TheYango wrote:
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well. I suppose that's true, but it feel really odd about what is purgable versus what isn't, and the fact that the side effects with the purge vary so widely (ie slow, damage to illusions etc etc), but we consider them consistent characteristics with the purge.
What is/isn't purge-able is problematic simply because there's nowhere in the interface that indicates buff types as physical or magical, only damage types. For example, Venomancer's Venomous Gale is a physical debuff, even though it does magic damage, which is why it isn't removed by purge/magic immunity. It makes sense logically, it's just that this is never indicated anywhere.
People just assume that all spells have "magical" effects, which is why it seems like a weird exception when skills like Naga's Ensnare or Venomancer's Gale aren't removed by magic immunity/purge. But if you made it clear that there are magical and physical buffs, and not just magical and physical damage, then it makes sense. It also means it logically follows why Ethereal/Decrepify remove these things (just like magic immunity removes magic buffs, physical immunity removes physical buffs)
EDIT: Though I guess this really starts to get hairy when you have triggered buffs that aren't removed by magic immunity simply because they're triggered (e.g. Ion Shell on a magic immune unit).
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On May 18 2013 05:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 05:13 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone know the name of the male and female chinese casters? For what event and their real names or their handles?
oh the qualifiers and both
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On May 18 2013 05:22 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 05:11 Comeh wrote:On May 18 2013 04:56 TheYango wrote:
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well. I suppose that's true, but it feel really odd about what is purgable versus what isn't, and the fact that the side effects with the purge vary so widely (ie slow, damage to illusions etc etc), but we consider them consistent characteristics with the purge. What is/isn't purge-able is problematic simply because there's nowhere in the interface that indicates buff types as physical or magical, only damage types. For example, Venomancer's Venomous Gale is a physical debuff, even though it does magic damage, which is why it isn't removed by purge/magic immunity. It makes sense logically, it's just that this is never indicated anywhere.
Yeah, i've been frustrated about this too - and the dota wiki's aren't too good about mentioning what is what, so I just have to work off the unreliable database that is my head.
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Did anyone here got anything dropped from obsing game? These viewing number is so intimidating compare to TI2 >.> The odds is just getting lower.
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On May 18 2013 05:25 NB wrote:
Did anyone here got anything dropped from obsing game? These viewing number is so intimidating compare to TI2 >.> The odds is just getting lower.
Er, what do you mean the odds?
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On May 18 2013 05:28 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 05:25 NB wrote:
Did anyone here got anything dropped from obsing game? These viewing number is so intimidating compare to TI2 >.> The odds is just getting lower. Er, what do you mean the odds?
Of getting an item while watching a game.
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odds of getting an item obviously
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On May 18 2013 05:31 FinestHour wrote:
odds of getting an item obviously
Ah, suppose my priorities have always been off.
The rares are all I should think about.
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but yea is it haitao and melody doing the chinese cast right now?
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On May 18 2013 05:36 FinestHour wrote:
but yea is it haitao and melody doing the chinese cast right now?
I'd answer but fengyunzhibo isn't loading for me for some reason.
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should change the *will lose to just *lost
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Fear 
Demon is toxic to his teams.
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On May 18 2013 06:39 Gheizen64 wrote:Fear Demon is toxic to his teams.
shut the fuck up please
I'm growing tired of these posts dissing Demon, when he's better than your average western pro by far
User was temp banned for this post.
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So when are we getting Liquibets for dota 2? :D
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