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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 17 2013 19:31 GMT
#57081
Medusa ult only deals low damage compared to diffusal
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 17 2013 19:32 GMT
#57082
It's 500/1000/1500 for dusa and diffu is 9999
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 17 2013 19:36 GMT
#57083
Purge doesn't inherently kill summoned units, it's a specific property of purges to do set amounts of bonus damage to summoned units. Medusa ult does 500/1000/1500 damage to them.

One thing to note is that all Purges are bugged on non-hero units: Purges are actually supposed to behave differently and *pause* non-hero units, not just slow them. But as of right now, this different behavior isn't in the game.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3459 Posts
May 17 2013 19:37 GMT
#57084
I thought the golem is magic immune, so diffusal won't affect it ? Or am I wrong again ...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2013 19:38 GMT
#57085
WTB Medusa 10s cd purge(or what was it?)
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:40:02
May 17 2013 19:38 GMT
#57086
On May 18 2013 04:32 Qbek wrote:
It's 500/1000/1500 for dusa and diffu is 9999

Considering golems have 1500 health (1125 with aghs), it still looks pretty nice against an Aghs + Refresher Warlock. Should kill them regardless. Wouldn't say that's low damage.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:40:07
May 17 2013 19:39 GMT
#57087
On May 18 2013 04:37 vndestiny wrote:
I thought the golem is magic immune, so diffusal won't affect it ? Or am I wrong again ...


Golem's do not have magic immunity.

On May 18 2013 04:38 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:32 Qbek wrote:
It's 500/1000/1500 for dusa and diffu is 9999

Considering golems have 1500 health (1125 with aghs), it still looks pretty nice against an Aghs + Refresher Warlock. Should kill them regardless.


Doesn't purge do magic typed damage? They would all survive since golem's have magic resistance.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
May 17 2013 19:40 GMT
#57088
The fact that KotL is such a highly-valued pick actually belies how strong split-pushing still is everywhere, because much KotL's value is that he enables split-pushing in many scenarios where it would not otherwise be sustainable (gives reliable wave clear by himself, and can bring back a split-pushing hero).

If people didn't find this to be useful, then KotL wouldn't get picked/banned as much as he is.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:41:52
May 17 2013 19:41 GMT
#57089
On May 18 2013 04:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:37 vndestiny wrote:
I thought the golem is magic immune, so diffusal won't affect it ? Or am I wrong again ...


Golem's do not have magic immunity.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:38 SKC wrote:
On May 18 2013 04:32 Qbek wrote:
It's 500/1000/1500 for dusa and diffu is 9999

Considering golems have 1500 health (1125 with aghs), it still looks pretty nice against an Aghs + Refresher Warlock. Should kill them regardless.


Doesn't purge do magic typed damage? They would all survive since golem's have magic resistance.

Yeah, forgot it was 33% MR, not 25%. Still should leave them pretty damn low for a few splitshots.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 17 2013 19:45 GMT
#57090
On May 18 2013 04:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:37 vndestiny wrote:
I thought the golem is magic immune, so diffusal won't affect it ? Or am I wrong again ...


Golem's do not have magic immunity.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:38 SKC wrote:
On May 18 2013 04:32 Qbek wrote:
It's 500/1000/1500 for dusa and diffu is 9999

Considering golems have 1500 health (1125 with aghs), it still looks pretty nice against an Aghs + Refresher Warlock. Should kill them regardless.


Doesn't purge do magic typed damage? They would all survive since golem's have magic resistance.

Its still pretty good, though.

Only problem is you have a medusa on your team then.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
May 17 2013 19:45 GMT
#57091
On May 18 2013 03:31 Kipsate wrote:
What micro, you just a-move the birds and press Q if you want a stun, its not like you need high level micro with Visage in a pub.


Should have put that differently

"micro"

Though not feeding the familiars is difficult till your 3rd or 4th game with him.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:53:15
May 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#57092
I actually can't get medusa ult to do any damage to golems. Not sure if bug or just bad.

They also have 50% magic resists instead of 33% apparently ^_^ Don't see a bug about them being immune entirely. I could just be bad though. I've never actually played Medusa in dota2. see Yango below
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 17 2013 19:48 GMT
#57093
I just checked, Stone Gaze doesn't have Ancients as a valid target, and Warlock golem counts as an ancient. Doesn't damage them, and is intended.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 17 2013 19:50 GMT
#57094
I feel like purge is one of the weirdest game mechanics that exist - it varies from purge type to purge, and really are just separate effects for each source
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 17 2013 19:52 GMT
#57095
On May 18 2013 04:50 Comeh wrote:
I feel like purge is one of the weirdest game mechanics that exist - it varies from purge type to purge, and really are just separate effects for each source


Unit classifications are the problem. They're only weird because they're invisible and have to go into the editor to look at them ^_^
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#57096
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#57097
On May 18 2013 04:48 TheYango wrote:
I just checked, Stone Gaze doesn't have Ancients as a valid target, and Warlock golem counts as an ancient. Doesn't damage them, and is intended.

Look at this. Yango aka Icefrog trying to throw us off his scent by inserting 'I just checked' at the beginning of his post.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:59:47
May 17 2013 19:58 GMT
#57098
On May 18 2013 04:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:48 TheYango wrote:
I just checked, Stone Gaze doesn't have Ancients as a valid target, and Warlock golem counts as an ancient. Doesn't damage them, and is intended.

Look at this. Yango aka Icefrog trying to throw us off his scent by inserting 'I just checked' at the beginning of his post.


You'd have to be insane to know every unit classification for every spell in the game, even as the editor of the map.

Dotas aren't that bad I guess, but even still.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 17 2013 20:11 GMT
#57099
On May 18 2013 04:56 TheYango wrote:
Exactly, purges themselves are mechanically consistent, it's just a matter of what are valid targets for the spells, and not to do with the purge effect itself. Unit classifications are awkward for other spells as well.

I suppose that's true, but it feel really odd about what is purgable versus what isn't, and the fact that the side effects with the purge vary so widely (ie slow, damage to illusions etc etc), but we consider them consistent characteristics with the purge.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#57100
does anyone know the name of the male and female chinese casters?
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