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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 02 2013 20:17 GMT
#54301
radiant wins? dire has nothing to handle zues/ursa early-mid
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
May 02 2013 20:18 GMT
#54302
On May 03 2013 05:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On the note of drafts...

[image loading]

Discuss.

[Ancient aliens guy]Carries[/AAG]

But seriously, how could something like that happened?
EZ4ENCE
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 02 2013 20:18 GMT
#54303
On May 03 2013 05:17 FinestHour wrote:
radiant wins? dire has nothing to handle zues/ursa early-mid

I think the point is how terrible Dire heroes were.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 02 2013 20:19 GMT
#54304
On May 03 2013 05:18 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On the note of drafts...

[image loading]

Discuss.

[Ancient aliens guy]Carries[/AAG]

But seriously, how could something like that happened?


It's all random.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 02 2013 20:21 GMT
#54305
On May 03 2013 05:08 cecek wrote:
Slark is going to get slightly buffed in 6.78 and he's going to become a big roleplayer at TI3. Heard it here first, folks. I might look really dumb, but I really believe it's going to happen.

Why would you say Slark would be buffed, just wishful thinking.

I started playing him a lot recently, I feel like he could play the same role that Weaver does in competitive games.
Skol
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 20:25:07
May 02 2013 20:23 GMT
#54306
On May 03 2013 05:14 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
DS mid, Storm safe lane, SD Lesh Gyro aggressive trilane.

what, nooo, storm should be mid since he can dominate it and get gyro some farm into 20-30 min win

Mid is going to be either Clock, Tusk, or Omni. In all cases, it's DS vs. melee, so he's going to crush them.

Storm vs. any of those heroes safe lane vs. hard lane is going to be better than the same matchups mid, whereas DS doesn't exactly get a lot out of playing safe lane vs. hard lane because Ion Shell pushes the lane far up anyway.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 20:25:23
May 02 2013 20:23 GMT
#54307
On May 03 2013 05:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On the note of drafts...

[image loading]

Discuss.



dude! easy game for dire, just have to stall for 75 minutes and you got it bro!

it's
in
the
bag!
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 20:25:51
May 02 2013 20:25 GMT
#54308
On May 03 2013 05:21 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:08 cecek wrote:
Slark is going to get slightly buffed in 6.78 and he's going to become a big roleplayer at TI3. Heard it here first, folks. I might look really dumb, but I really believe it's going to happen.

Why would you say Slark would be buffed, just wishful thinking.

I started playing him a lot recently, I feel like he could play the same role that Weaver does in competitive games.

Slark is a much stronger gank hero and farms faster, but Weaver is a vastly stronger solo laner and stronger in teamfights on low items. They're not really all that similar.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 02 2013 20:26 GMT
#54309
That valve new "If you post QQ in GD you will get shitty teams in all random" Punishment
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#54310
@Yango well, storm is probably gonna end up pushing vs those heroes just as a result of how he lanes (remnant + overload) being AOE based. And pre-6 storm benefits more from *always* having a tower to hide under when compared to DS.

Not that Storm has to be mid just that I think its kinda close, not a clear win for DS mid.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 02 2013 20:30 GMT
#54311
On May 03 2013 05:08 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:05 Comeh wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:02 duoform wrote:
Tobi saying Bristleback and Sky will be the shinny new heroes for TI3 qualifiers...I don't really know about that.

I could see BB being used as a fringe lastpick pocket strat.

Skywrath might make it in a few games.

and in those game he will get crushed so hard noone will evel play him again untill he's buffed

He almost worked in this game:
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 02 2013 20:30 GMT
#54312
Well the other issue is that I'm not sure even running an aggressive tri is 100% right. It depends because you're not sure whether it's Omni as the 4th position or Tusk.

If it's Omni as 4, the aggressive tri is going to have a hard time getting enough of an advantage to be worthwhile because it's going to be hard to force a kill through Repel + endless Purifications, but it means that the enemy defensive tri has no hard stuns so a DS off-lane would absolutely love the lane. Conversely, Tusk as 4 means its risky for DS to 1v3 because Tusk brings a hard stun and burst damage to the lane, but it also means that the lane's defensive ability goes down and allows an offensive tri to get kills.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 20:31:37
May 02 2013 20:30 GMT
#54313
On May 03 2013 05:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
On the note of drafts...

[image loading]

Discuss.


Radiant's lineup is almost perfect while dire's is kind of shit

Offlane PL, VS ursa, jungle DS and mid zeus is something that's better than a good portion of lineups picked by "pro" teams
meanwhile the dire is pretty much just fucked, probably having to do something like medusa on ancients and playing 4-1 bristleback to win
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 02 2013 20:30 GMT
#54314
Anyway 21-2, it's been a pretty funny game. Poor Kwark who has only played Lich, Lycan and Enchantress is forced to play Medusa. ^_^
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#54315
On May 03 2013 05:30 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:08 cilinder007 wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:05 Comeh wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:02 duoform wrote:
Tobi saying Bristleback and Sky will be the shinny new heroes for TI3 qualifiers...I don't really know about that.

I could see BB being used as a fringe lastpick pocket strat.

Skywrath might make it in a few games.

and in those game he will get crushed so hard noone will evel play him again untill he's buffed

He almost worked in this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mvAP3KssKw

too bad pinoys play DK a lot
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#54316
On May 03 2013 05:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
Anyway 21-2, it's been a pretty funny game. Poor Kwark who has only played Lich, Lycan and Enchantress is forced to play Medusa. ^_^

Wait, are you guys winning or losing? I'm assuming the latter...
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 02 2013 20:38 GMT
#54317
Wait Kwark is playing? Could have told me, we nearly have enough to form a WCG 2013 British team!
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 02 2013 20:47 GMT
#54318
On May 03 2013 05:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 05:14 cilinder007 wrote:
On May 03 2013 05:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
DS mid, Storm safe lane, SD Lesh Gyro aggressive trilane.

what, nooo, storm should be mid since he can dominate it and get gyro some farm into 20-30 min win

Mid is going to be either Clock, Tusk, or Omni. In all cases, it's DS vs. melee, so he's going to crush them.

Storm vs. any of those heroes safe lane vs. hard lane is going to be better than the same matchups mid, whereas DS doesn't exactly get a lot out of playing safe lane vs. hard lane because Ion Shell pushes the lane far up anyway.

I dissagree, storm mid can bottle crow and/or control runes whereas safelane he will have less regen, longer time for bottlecrowing therefore he wont get as much farm since unless he makes a roh those heros can harass him down quite a bit and ds can own in the safelane as much as mid and while he could probably have rune control mid they are much better on storm anyway
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 02 2013 20:48 GMT
#54319
On May 03 2013 05:38 kollin wrote:
Wait Kwark is playing? Could have told me, we nearly have enough to form a WCG 2013 British team!

We could I suppose, not like there are any other British teams atm...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 20:57:38
May 02 2013 20:53 GMT
#54320
On May 03 2013 05:47 cilinder007 wrote:
I dissagree, storm mid can bottle crow and/or control runes whereas safelane he will have less regen, longer time for bottlecrowing therefore he wont get as much farm since unless he makes a roh those heros can harass him down quite a bit and ds can own in the safelane as much as mid and while he could probably have rune control mid they are much better on storm anyway

Bottle crowing helps any of those melees against Storm far more than it helps Storm against them. The only hero that has any harassment potential among those heroes without using bottle crow is Clock, and even then, it's not enough to outharass Storm's starting regen items. Omni has no form of harass for this, period, and without bottle crow, Tusk only has mana for 2 Ice Shards.
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