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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 02 2013 14:28 GMT
#54221
On May 02 2013 23:21 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:16 Yoshi- wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:15 Qbek wrote:
Only Skywrath mage would have spells that are still relevant in that case , so cloak would suck against any other hero. Maybe centaur too.


Huskar?
Naix?
DP?

Naix deals physical, huskar i agree with, DP i don't get.

Add zeus to the list, he fucks you up with his % damage :D

And dooms lvl death too


Well, DP can pretty much kill a hero within 34 seconds of Heartstopper + his ulti.
Ofc assuming there is no health regen.

Troll would be good too, he could just bash you to dead.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 02 2013 14:30 GMT
#54222
Oh you mean Rotund'jere. Yeah he imba too
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 14:32:05
May 02 2013 14:30 GMT
#54223
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.
super gg
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 14:30:46
May 02 2013 14:30 GMT
#54224
On May 02 2013 22:53 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 22:48 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 02 2013 22:37 Yoshi- wrote:
Only Branches are viable.
Why would skadi be viable?

well actually ogre gauntlets would also be viable. but only because HP scales faster than damage (especially once atk speed cap is reached)

Would claim that the Armor from agility makes up for the 9 gold.

once you reach atk speed cap, the armor doesn't really do much more for you and mana becomes a useless stat. so realistically you are paying 159 gold for 3 strength and .001% damage reduction. or pay 150 gold for 3 strength.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 02 2013 14:34 GMT
#54225
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 02 2013 14:35 GMT
#54226
On May 02 2013 23:34 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.

Half of his stuff is useless he's essentially a bash bot with a miss chance spell. in these situations alchemist or any evasion or miss chance on a hero out-does troll.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 14:37:14
May 02 2013 14:36 GMT
#54227
Armor scales linearly in terms of EHP afaik (which means it can't scale linearly in terms of %reduction). The only reason gauntlets would be better was if you were taking near-exclusive magic damage.

Butterfly or hood would rapidly become cost efficient (defensively) as well, depending on opponents.

On May 02 2013 23:34 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.


Bro we are talking if you had infinite item slots aka everybody got like 400 gg branches
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 02 2013 14:38 GMT
#54228
On May 02 2013 23:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:34 aintz wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.

Half of his stuff is useless he's essentially a bash bot with a miss chance spell. in these situations alchemist or any evasion or miss chance on a hero out-does troll.


But Alchemist can only buy basher, which has a CD, Troll has no CD on his bash, resulting in perma bash.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#54229
On May 02 2013 23:38 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:34 aintz wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.

Half of his stuff is useless he's essentially a bash bot with a miss chance spell. in these situations alchemist or any evasion or miss chance on a hero out-does troll.


But Alchemist can only buy basher, which has a CD, Troll has no CD on his bash, resulting in perma bash.

Why troll's awful 10% chance over void/slardar 25% chance?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 14:42:09
May 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#54230
PA would be crazy.
And while its only 10%chance, it doesnt have a cooldown like slardar/void/sb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 02 2013 14:42 GMT
#54231
AFAIK slardar and void don't have a CD on it (SB does). I could obviously be wrong but I can't find a place listing a CD.
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 02 2013 14:42 GMT
#54232
WTF Earth Splitter in Dota2 doesn't suck units. Sounds like a nerf. Hope Valve fixes this.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 02 2013 14:43 GMT
#54233
On May 02 2013 23:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:38 Yoshi- wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:35 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:34 aintz wrote:
On May 02 2013 23:30 cecek wrote:
Necrolyte would be pretty OP, Heartstopper aura would be dealing stupid damage, and his ultimate too, ofc.

I don't think Troll is too good, his + attackspeed stuff is pretty worthless, because you will get to max AS with pretty much any hero sooner or later. Also Alchemist with a basher with outbash the shit out of troll.


troll is hands down one of the most ridiculous heroes in the game. necrolyte is one of the least.

Half of his stuff is useless he's essentially a bash bot with a miss chance spell. in these situations alchemist or any evasion or miss chance on a hero out-does troll.


But Alchemist can only buy basher, which has a CD, Troll has no CD on his bash, resulting in perma bash.

Why troll's awful 10% chance over void/slardar 25% chance?

If you are picking Troll, its for his ultimate - not for his bash procs.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 02 2013 14:44 GMT
#54234
Medusa! She benefits the most from all 3 stats, because int giver her health. AND you could stack like 30 sobi masks for OP mana regen! :D Also,Storm with unlimited mana regen sounds fun.
super gg
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 02 2013 14:45 GMT
#54235
On May 02 2013 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
AFAIK slardar and void don't have a CD on it (SB does). I could obviously be wrong but I can't find a place listing a CD.

oops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 02 2013 14:45 GMT
#54236
On May 02 2013 23:42 Fwizzz wrote:
WTF Earth Splitter in Dota2 doesn't suck units. Sounds like a nerf. Hope Valve fixes this.

Its already been fixed afaik.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 02 2013 14:47 GMT
#54237
On May 02 2013 23:45 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 23:42 Fwizzz wrote:
WTF Earth Splitter in Dota2 doesn't suck units. Sounds like a nerf. Hope Valve fixes this.

Its already been fixed afaik.

Yes, latest test client update claims it is fixed
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 02 2013 14:58 GMT
#54238
I see. Good
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 02 2013 15:04 GMT
#54239


So Armlet is allowed
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 02 2013 15:08 GMT
#54240
On May 03 2013 00:04 Yoshi- wrote:
https://twitter.com/BTSGoDz/status/329974085058699265

So Armlet is allowed

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