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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
April 27 2013 00:15 GMT
#53461
On April 27 2013 08:54 PassiveAce wrote:
I cant think of anything aside from items. Which are only an incentive to finish a game, not to perform as best you can.

I agree with you superstartran, but I don't know what could possibly be an appropriate incentive.



Maybe players can vote to see who was the most 'fun' player to play with on their team, and the person that gets the most votes on their team gets an extra item. Who knows. Valve can implement incentives to play normal so that normal still has people playing it. It's not difficult for them espec with the item system currently in place.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 27 2013 00:15 GMT
#53462
On April 27 2013 08:54 PassiveAce wrote:
I cant think of anything aside from items. Which are only an incentive to finish a game, not to perform as best you can.

I agree with you superstartran, but I don't know what could possibly be an appropriate incentive.


Well that's an interesting idea.
Let's say casual mode gives you items at the end of the game (like now)
Ranked mode does not give you items, ever.

Which would you play?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 27 2013 00:15 GMT
#53463
On April 27 2013 09:08 Fatalize wrote:
off-topic question:

Is there any reason why we often jokingly call DotA doto?


I believe it's Singsing/SexyBamboe that popularized it. Basically whenever bamboe did his crazy aggression and would chirp bamboe doto
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2013 00:20 GMT
#53464
theres like so many, doto dotes deets
iono i dont like those much it takes away from the sanctity and sacredness of the sport
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 27 2013 00:21 GMT
#53465
Just like how you idiots call football soccer.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 27 2013 00:23 GMT
#53466
On April 27 2013 09:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just like how you idiots call football soccer.

Flaming/racism, reported
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 00:24:32
April 27 2013 00:23 GMT
#53467
American is now a race? :> We call it soccer here too, but we tend to copy America a lot of the time.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 00:24:57
April 27 2013 00:24 GMT
#53468
bloody tea drinking biscuit munching wanker

burger chomping obese unejucated ingrateful muricans
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 27 2013 00:25 GMT
#53469
On April 27 2013 09:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just like how you idiots call football soccer.

Funnily enough it was the British that started that
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 00:26:32
April 27 2013 00:26 GMT
#53470
On April 27 2013 09:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just like how you idiots call football soccer.


a name which "you idiots" invented

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_"-er"#Rugger.2C_footer_and_soccer
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 27 2013 00:31 GMT
#53471
The problem with implementing a ranked que, completely with MMR numbers, is that suddenly you get defined by those numbers, fail in a game? Prepare for people to make fun of your MMR, Lowest MMR player can't pick the carry.

even if there's an option to hide MMR or you don't play the ranked, there's immediately a stigma attached where you're a bad player because you're unranked

Then this immediately has an effect on any balance discussion, everything you say will be filtered through the lens of your MMR, its actually a really destructive process

the 'leagues' system that LoL uses is a far better one because it classifies players better, players in a team game fit more neatly into brackets than they do specific MMR
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
April 27 2013 01:16 GMT
#53472
On April 27 2013 09:31 Shaella wrote:
The problem with implementing a ranked que, completely with MMR numbers, is that suddenly you get defined by those numbers, fail in a game? Prepare for people to make fun of your MMR, Lowest MMR player can't pick the carry.

even if there's an option to hide MMR or you don't play the ranked, there's immediately a stigma attached where you're a bad player because you're unranked

Then this immediately has an effect on any balance discussion, everything you say will be filtered through the lens of your MMR, its actually a really destructive process

the 'leagues' system that LoL uses is a far better one because it classifies players better, players in a team game fit more neatly into brackets than they do specific MMR



Why would an unranked player be talking about balance? Those who play unranked/normal don't care about that; they just play for fun.


People who are on the lower echelon of the MMR also shouldn't be talking about balance because they simply don't understand it. It's just like how gold/silver players shouldn't be talking about balance in SC2 because they fundamentally are not sound at the game.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
April 27 2013 01:43 GMT
#53473
Icefrog doesn't even balance around pubs I thought? Not sure why that would be a huge concern.
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
April 27 2013 02:08 GMT
#53474
On April 27 2013 09:08 Fatalize wrote:
off-topic question:

Is there any reason why we often jokingly call DotA doto?


Bro do you even doto?
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 27 2013 02:52 GMT
#53475
On April 27 2013 09:24 FinestHour wrote:
bloody tea drinking biscuit munching wanker

burger chomping obese unejucated ingrateful muricans

I was going to point out you spelled educated wrong, then I realized that was probably on purpose... I hope.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 27 2013 03:14 GMT
#53476
I like the quality discussions this thread is bringing to TL. Definitely rival the legendary Kpop thread.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2013 03:32 GMT
#53477
On April 27 2013 11:52 TheEmulator wrote:
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On April 27 2013 09:24 FinestHour wrote:
bloody tea drinking biscuit munching wanker

burger chomping obese unejucated ingrateful muricans

I was going to point out you spelled educated wrong, then I realized that was probably on purpose... I hope.


ya thats us ingrate usa
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 04:02:40
April 27 2013 03:37 GMT
#53478
On April 27 2013 09:26 trifecta wrote:
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On April 27 2013 09:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just like how you idiots call football soccer.


a name which "you idiots" invented

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_"-er"#Rugger.2C_footer_and_soccer

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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
April 27 2013 04:44 GMT
#53479
Another reason to play Normal over Ranked, is that Ranked would only be 5v5 CM (I assume).
When other modes are implemented you'd need to play Normal's to play them officially.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 04:58:38
April 27 2013 04:58 GMT
#53480
Really like the idea of having separated ranked queue.

Very sick of having to play against bat/nyx/kotl/mag/pl every game. And then the following game someone will be frustrated because he just got stomped by bat/nyx/kotl/pl 5 games in a row and said to himself " Ok screw this , I need a win. I will pick nyx/bat/kotl/pl/mag and that's fine because others picked those against me".

Vicious cycle.

Oh and i absolutely hate people who says " What is tryhard? Isn't the whole point of the game to do all in your power to win?" No no no. Insta-picking permabanned heroes in ALLPICK is a douche move. Don't even try to justify it.



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