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TheEmulator
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
That's interesting tho because there are a lot of tournaments incoming. G-1, the Perfect World + Gamefy League (ACE most likely), DreamHack and I think Starladder. We will see tho. Solo ranked  | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
thats right up my alley | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:19 Gheizen64 wrote: Why would they implement ranked MMR zzzzzz plz no. Don't play it E: I suppose you are worried about "Bronze Scum" comments etc? Meh, whatever. | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
zzz not going into this again | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
Valve shouldn't take it away from the people who wants it only because some people don't like it or apparently are afraid of some random numbers on the internet. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote: Don't play it E: I suppose you are worried about "Bronze Scum" comments etc? Meh, whatever. It's not that easy because once you have a "ranked" mode, "normal" games are seen as second-class. Having a ranked mode in the game fundamentally affects how the community views normal games. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:27 TheYango wrote: It's not that easy because once you have a "ranked" mode, "normal" games are seen as second-class. Having a ranked mode in the game fundamentally affects how the community views normal games. While this is true, I can't help but feel something is missing not having ranked games. I'm kind of split about it - though I'm 90% positive Valve would keep stats / rank invisible or done in an intelligent way. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:27 TheYango wrote: It's not that easy because once you have a "ranked" mode, "normal" games are seen as second-class. Having a ranked mode in the game fundamentally affects how the community views normal games. Absolutely this, it's true in LoL and all the other games I've played where there are two separate queues for ranked and unranked. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:29 Witten wrote: Absolutely this, it's true in LoL and all the other games I've played where there are two separate queues for ranked and unranked. We already psuedo have this win normal / high / vh, anyways. And there is a semi-division between bot players and regular players (a lot of bot players i've met are afraid to make the move over). I think to some extent, there was always be a division. I'm not sure what's best. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:30 Comeh wrote: We already psuedo have this win normal / high / vh, anyways. And there is a semi-division between bot players and regular players (a lot of bot players i've met are afraid to make the move over). I think to some extent, there was always be a division. I'm not sure what's best. It's not a division of skill. It's misconstruing a division in "seriousness" as a division of skill. Which is exactly what you're doing saying that the normal/high/vh division is the same thing as a normal/ranked division. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:35 TheYango wrote: It's not a division of skill. It's misconstruing a division in "seriousness" as a division of skill. Which is exactly what you're doing saying that the normal/high/vh division is the same thing as a normal/ranked division. I'm not saying that - I'm saying that there is a perception among that as players. People will claim they are "VH SKILL" and use this to whatever means they desire. I just suppose I'm saying that in terms of the "People who claim they are really high MMR or whatever". Just look at the team recruitment thread. It already exists, albeit to a smaller extent. I'm not saying anything much about the ensuing division between normal / ranked. I don't have much of an opinion on that. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:35 TheYango wrote: It's not a division of skill. It's misconstruing a division in "seriousness" as a division of skill. Which is exactly what you're doing saying that the normal/high/vh division is the same thing as a normal/ranked division. Maybe people should grow up a little to not care what a random number on the internet means. Who, in his right mind would care if you are a "bronze scum" in a game? Or even worst, people who gets offended by someone who called them a "bronze scum". All that shit is literally beyond me and like I said before, will never understand it. But don't get me wrong, I respect the ones who don't want it because apparently they had a bad experience in LoL or HoN. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:42 duoform wrote: Maybe people should grow up a little to not care what a random number on the internet means. Who, in his right mind would care if you are a "bronze scum" in a game? Or even worst, people who gets offended by someone who called them a "bronze scum". All that shit is literally beyond me and like I said before, will never understand it. But don't get me wrong, I respect the ones who don't want it because apparently they had a bad experience in LoL or HoN. If Valve finds a comfortable solution behind the "bronze scum" talking in the report system, I don't really see this as a problem. The question I think involves attracting casual players, attracting competitive players, making the two mix together well, and encouraging casual players to be interested in becoming / learning about competitive players. Valve has a lot of vested interest in the competitive scene of Dota2, and is trying to create a business model that helps the competitive scene grow naturally, and find ways to assist / profit from that happening. They have a difficult task on their hands. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:42 duoform wrote: Maybe people should grow up a little to not care what a random number on the internet means. Who, in his right mind would care if you are a "bronze scum" in a game? Or even worst, people who gets offended by someone who called them a "bronze scum". All that shit is literally beyond me and like I said before, will never understand it. But don't get me wrong, I respect the ones who don't want it because apparently they had a bad experience in LoL or HoN. It's not just an issue of perception. The existence of a ranked queue has a real impact on the quality, type, and number of games people will get in a non-ranked queue solely because of how the community as a whole perceives the queue as being second-class. The point being you can't just say "don't play ranked if you don't like it", because even if they choose to not play ranked and don't care how they are perceived, the division STILL has an impact on the quality of the normal games they're in. | ||
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Porkz
Denmark1027 Posts
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TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:51 Porkz wrote: shits gonna be so tryhard now Yeah, instead of picking drow every other game I might pick her every game. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On April 27 2013 06:54 trifecta wrote: Mixed feelings about ranked ladder. It's likely going to lead to the equivalent of "ladder anxiety", depending on if the mmr is visible. It's already a massive jump for casual/new players to go from bot games to mm. On the positive side, having a solo mmr can make matchmaking against stacks more balanced. There is already a hidden way of tracking a players MMR equivalent (does valve use trueskill? Can't remember to be honest). | ||
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