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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 24 2013 23:06 GMT
#53141
hmm, seem like owner of DotAbuff will be on Lo3. I wonder what he gota say about anything :-/ Hope its not another LoL vs DotA = superior MOBA shit.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 24 2013 23:09 GMT
#53142
On April 25 2013 08:03 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 08:01 SKC wrote:
It's kinda like Necrolyte or Razor, they see you on low health and keep following you while you steal all their damage or keep healing yourself. I feel like the only reason Razor isn't higher is because people don't realize how good Static Link is, they don't even skill it until later on in the game and just forget to use it.

Razor also isn't higher because low level pubs play him as a generic Agi carry and don't enough build defensive items on him.

Well, yeah, but even with correct builds, Razor's that don't use link are pretty bad. While even with an agi build, you will win an 1v1 fight vs their agi carry, which actually happens fairly often in pubs. Or even easily turn an 1v2 versus two of their 4 agi carries.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 24 2013 23:13 GMT
#53143
New dota2 test!
GAMEPLAY
- Enabled Drow and Tusk in Captain's Mode (Tournament Version).
- Enabled Bristleback, Slark and Skywrath Mage in Captain's Mode (Latest Version).
- Invoker: Fixed Cold Snap being purgable.
- Skywrath Mage: Fixed hitbox being too small.
- Slark: Fixed Shadow Dance giving Slark flying vision.
- Slark: Fixed Shadow Dance granting passive bonuses to Slark illusions.
- Slark: Fixed an issue causing Shadow Dance's passive modifier to not update in the UI, despite being active.
- Slark: Fixed Dark Pact continuing while Slark is dead.
- Slark: Essence Shift counters on both Slark and enemy heroes will show the total duration ( i.e. the time that the most recent stack will expire.)
- Slark: Fixed a number of incorrect spell interactions with Dark Pact.
- Slark: Fixed a number of horizontal movement ability interactions with Pounce.
- Troll Warlord: Fixed Berserker's Rage bonus damage not being applied as base damage.
- Tusk: Fixed Frozen Sigil not affecting magic immune units.

WORKSHOP
- Added HUD Skins to the Workshop Importer.


Valve fixing Slark(finally!) and preparing for shipping the heroes into CM.
Preparation for TI3? :D

I wonder whats going on behind the scenes too. Someone found a HL thingy as a courier

Also
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
April 24 2013 23:58 GMT
#53144
On April 25 2013 07:30 Excludos wrote:
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On April 25 2013 07:24 TheYango wrote:
I don't see anything strange there. Most of the heroes at the top of the list are very high effectiveness pub heroes.


Huskar, Storm, Tusk, Tinker, TA, QoP, Enigma, Tiny, Undying, Batrider, Lion, Magnus, Nightstalker...All well below 50% winratio.
While towards the top we have Necrolyte(wtf?), SB(One of my personal favorites, but I almost never seeing anyone else use him successfully), Omniknight, Spectre(another wtf?), VS, Treant Protector..All skewed towards the top of the list.

At least in my mind, it doesn't make much sense =|

And how many pubs can actually shut down a hard carry and end the game before 30 minutes?

Spectre thrives in the depths of normal bracket!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 25 2013 00:24 GMT
#53145
That's not really a good reason because there are a lot of hard carries that are low on that list.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 25 2013 00:33 GMT
#53146
Severly disappointed treant wont get an base damage buff. I feel like it's the only reason he is not picked in pro matches.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 25 2013 00:36 GMT
#53147
On April 25 2013 08:58 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:30 Excludos wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:24 TheYango wrote:
I don't see anything strange there. Most of the heroes at the top of the list are very high effectiveness pub heroes.


Huskar, Storm, Tusk, Tinker, TA, QoP, Enigma, Tiny, Undying, Batrider, Lion, Magnus, Nightstalker...All well below 50% winratio.
While towards the top we have Necrolyte(wtf?), SB(One of my personal favorites, but I almost never seeing anyone else use him successfully), Omniknight, Spectre(another wtf?), VS, Treant Protector..All skewed towards the top of the list.

At least in my mind, it doesn't make much sense =|

And how many pubs can actually shut down a hard carry and end the game before 30 minutes?

Spectre thrives in the depths of normal bracket!


nothing suprising really
tinker and batrider and storm are pretty hard to play for low levels, and then you got people who max psi blades first on ta
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 00:44:53
April 25 2013 00:42 GMT
#53148
On April 25 2013 09:24 TheYango wrote:
That's not really a good reason because there are a lot of hard carries that are low on that list.


I think it might be because spec is really a fairly passive carry. If the game goes long, she does well, even if the person playing her literally ults, a-moves and then afks in the middle of the fight with radiance going. Voids can miss chrono, AM et al. can fail to buy bkb and get stunned down, morphs can do heaps of things wrong. On the other hand, spec pretty much has to stand in fountain to be useless ultra-lategame, and even then she has haunt.

Speaking of which, I've found haunt to be an amazing pubstomp ult. At the very least, she's never felt as passive to me as people say. She's terrible in lane, sure, but a lot of the time you can get away with that in pubs. Once you're at 6ish haunt gets you asstons of assist gold and lets you be in every major fight with 0 effort and planning.

I'm surprised she's almost warlock tier, but I'm not surprised she's positive.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 25 2013 00:44 GMT
#53149
it's because spectre is so good with vanguard, which is what all new players build on every hard carry.

they don't die then because of no focus fire and her ult is allowed to do lots of damage because everyone tries to fight the illusions alone.

mystery solved.
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
April 25 2013 00:57 GMT
#53150
Spectre is secretly OP.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
April 25 2013 01:52 GMT
#53151
So many couriers in the market now @@
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 25 2013 02:55 GMT
#53152
So I realized that LD is like the only really good hero that I've never ever played for some reason, what are good builds for him/bear? I remember people rushing midas and a radiance for the bear with treads for both then AC for, bear I think? I honestly don't know how people divide items between hero/bear and what items exactly are best.
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 03:01:34
April 25 2013 03:00 GMT
#53153
On April 25 2013 11:55 hunts wrote:
So I realized that LD is like the only really good hero that I've never ever played for some reason, what are good builds for him/bear? I remember people rushing midas and a radiance for the bear with treads for both then AC for, bear I think? I honestly don't know how people divide items between hero/bear and what items exactly are best.


Armlet, AC, Mjollnir, Phase, OoV, Vlads.. Tranquils on the hero I suppose. Hardly ever see people go Radiance anymore
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 25 2013 03:02 GMT
#53154
Imo radiance needs a small buff, with how quick the game is you just have to get it so damn fast for it to be a good investment
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 03:05:07
April 25 2013 03:03 GMT
#53155
On April 25 2013 11:55 hunts wrote:
So I realized that LD is like the only really good hero that I've never ever played for some reason, what are good builds for him/bear? I remember people rushing midas and a radiance for the bear with treads for both then AC for, bear I think? I honestly don't know how people divide items between hero/bear and what items exactly are best.

I personally haven't seen Radiance in a long time on LD, or treads. Phase and Armlet are more common for the first pickup nowadays on the bear. OOV sometimes as well very early.

edit: oops, someone already answered.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 25 2013 03:49 GMT
#53156
OH MAN

Just played an All Random where they got all 4 carries and a Brewmaster.
I went Undying got bloodstone and BKB with 4 support heroes (Invoker, Lion, Rubick, Witch Doctor).

Was so good, we won in 30 minutes!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
April 25 2013 04:44 GMT
#53157
On April 25 2013 12:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
OH MAN

Just played an All Random where they got all 4 carries and a Brewmaster.
I went Undying got bloodstone and BKB with 4 support heroes (Invoker, Lion, Rubick, Witch Doctor).

Was so good, we won in 30 minutes!

I wouldn't personally call invoker a support hero, but alright
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 25 2013 04:45 GMT
#53158
On April 25 2013 13:44 LazyFailKid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 12:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
OH MAN

Just played an All Random where they got all 4 carries and a Brewmaster.
I went Undying got bloodstone and BKB with 4 support heroes (Invoker, Lion, Rubick, Witch Doctor).

Was so good, we won in 30 minutes!

I wouldn't personally call invoker a support hero, but alright


He didn't exactly build carry ): I tried to tell him.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 25 2013 05:06 GMT
#53159
Sundance DiGiovanniVerified account
‏@MLGSundance
@TobiWanDOTA have a few questions for you - would you mind DMing me your skype or email?

Thanks in advance


Cristian Tamaş ‏@Trancez0r 33m
Exciting Dota 2 stuff coming up. I'm getting all giddy inside.


Statsman Bruno ‏@StatsmanBruno 5h
Something's coming. I feel it in the wind~


Toby Dawson ‏@TobiWanDOTA 25m
Staying awake late tonight well worth it, from the US to the International DOTA2 world - should be some awesome stuff released REALLY soon


so. much. teasing.
ffxiv enjoyer
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 25 2013 05:22 GMT
#53160
What? Tobi is quitting DotA 2 and switching to LoL as MLG's exclusive caster? Seems to meet all the criteria.
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