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What good does HP regen do you?
It doesn't make you farm faster/safer since you shouldn't be taking much damage to farm as a ranged hero (especially since you get the first regen part after already spending like 2K gold so this isn't early lane where regen is crucial)
It doesn't make you harder to kill since the most you will regen over the course of a teamfight is like 50 HP.
It doesn't let you avoid basing after a gank/teamfight since you will have spent all your mana as well (2 nukes + ulti basically)
It doesn't help you do damage whatsoever.
Really, regen is a farming thing on most heroes, but it doesn't really help razor with that either. Hood is marginally more effective than cloak at preventing magic damage. The easiest way to justify a full hood is if you buy a ring of health at 5 minutes in lane when you are being harassed in lane (or if you spend HP for farm aka pudge/centaur). However, judging by your "order of acquisition" that isn't when you are getting it.
Mek just does the job better anyway in most situations 
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On April 25 2013 03:27 Klonere wrote:
sooo the gd studio lost 5k on the DH inv. They planned to lose more.
Why do they run tourneys that lose money?
Because it's good business to lose money sometimes
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Is there currently some known bug with the jugg ward?
Every time I try to micro that thing it just refuses to leave my side and keeps coming back TT
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On April 25 2013 03:27 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 03:18 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Hood is quite bad. Either go full pipe or just cloak tbh.
Imo build him quite similar to Luna just with different boots (treads or phase doesnt matter. I think tranquils are kinda weak on him, one of the few carries I dislike tranquils). With drums yasha bkb for the crazy movement speed + getting the drain off. Skadi is also pretty amazing on Razor as a 5th/6th item. Wouldn't phase + drums be enough to outspeed most people? I thought Hood was good since it crazy good regen.
Regen isn't a good combat stat, and Razor is meant to be taking some damage in fights. Better to build Drums/Mek first and just keep a base cloak, or if your intent is rushing Pipe then make the Hood.
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On April 25 2013 03:42 TheKefka wrote:
Is there currently some known bug with the jugg ward?
Every time I try to micro that thing it just refuses to leave my side and keeps coming back TT
were you in a bot game? I've heard reports of the ward being really clingy in those
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1 game was a bot game one was normal
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man sometimes I forget this game is still labeled as beta lol
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On April 25 2013 03:43 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 03:27 Torte de Lini wrote:On April 25 2013 03:18 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Hood is quite bad. Either go full pipe or just cloak tbh.
Imo build him quite similar to Luna just with different boots (treads or phase doesnt matter. I think tranquils are kinda weak on him, one of the few carries I dislike tranquils). With drums yasha bkb for the crazy movement speed + getting the drain off. Skadi is also pretty amazing on Razor as a 5th/6th item. Wouldn't phase + drums be enough to outspeed most people? I thought Hood was good since it crazy good regen. Regen isn't a good combat stat, and Razor is meant to be taking some damage in fights. Better to build Drums/Mek first and just keep a base cloak, or if your intent is rushing Pipe then make the Hood.
I thought Razor was to built tanky so he can take some hits and still maintain the tether?
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He is. Regen isn't a survivability stat, it's a sustain stat. Drums+Mek cost-efficiently give you actual survivability stats--HP and armor.
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On April 25 2013 03:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
Can I go Aquila and skip wand?
This is my item order so far: 3x branches + consumables -> Aquila -> Boots -> Wand (recipe) -> RoH -> Phase -> Hood -> Drums -> Meka -> The rest is situational.
Skipping wand isn't too horrible, but I think 3x branches is important and you are going to get the stick anyways. If you can have someone pool you, you can get a Wraithband + 2 branches first, but otherwise I would probably think something along the lines of 1 tango 1 salve 3 gg 1 RoP. If you really hate your damage, you can get 1xcirclet instead of the RoP.
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On April 25 2013 03:47 TheKefka wrote:
man sometimes I forget this game is still labeled as beta lol
And I'm willing to let Valve continue to label it as such until they feel ready to release it for real.
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So no hood at all? I'm surprised, I figured he'd need it most of all.
I'll put pipe under situational. So it goes: 3x GG Branch, Salv, Tango, Slippers
Then: Aquila, Wand Phase, Drums, Meka
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On April 25 2013 04:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
So no hood at all? I'm surprised, I figured he'd need it most of all.
I'll put pipe under situational. So it goes: 3x GG Branch, Salv, Tango, Slippers
Then: Aquila, Wand Phase, Drums, Meka
For me, while hood seems okay, I almost think picking up a BKB wouldn't outlandish and almost makes sense on this hero (can't be disabled while his tether is leeching all attack power, and dominating afterwards).
I think in some situations, staying on RoB might okay as well (i've really started to steer clear of RoA over RoB in a lot of situations these days).
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Lel.
Its all situational TdL. Especially since razor isn't seen in pro play so the masses lack a "proven" build to parrot.
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Ooh you guys D:<
I'm thinking of using Razor more and more now, it's why I'm asking. In all my games, I get a PA, Lifestealer or Void with BKB and I can't think of any other way to take them down. So Razor is my go-to answer, especially if I get a Mekansm since nobody supports :x
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The "straightforward" bkb counters are Bane and Beastmaster. Can go mek on BM easily (PS: his boar attacks slow through BKB).
You can also play doom to disable their bkb entirely (assuming you doom first). If you choose to play doom I recommend a more spellcasting route with items like Euls and shiva's. His spells are seriously good, and he naturally has like 2K hp at level 16 or something. Just needs armor and mana.
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On April 25 2013 04:09 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 04:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
So no hood at all? I'm surprised, I figured he'd need it most of all.
I'll put pipe under situational. So it goes: 3x GG Branch, Salv, Tango, Slippers
Then: Aquila, Wand Phase, Drums, Meka For me, while hood seems okay, I almost think picking up a BKB wouldn't outlandish and almost makes sense on this hero (can't be disabled while his tether is leeching all attack power, and dominating afterwards). I think in some situations, staying on RoB might okay as well (i've really started to steer clear of RoA over RoB in a lot of situations these days).
BKB is generally not that good on Razor unless you somehow ended up in a strange teamcomp where you are the 1st position carry.
Remember your 3rd skill is fundamentally reliant on people casting spells at you--and punishes them for doing so. While a lot of your usefulness comes from leeching damage from their carry, part of it is also that you force enemies to burn themselves throwing spells at you trying to get you OFF their carry.
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Does Eul's break the tether?
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On April 25 2013 04:24 Dubzex wrote:
Does Eul's break the tether?
No
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