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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#52821
One side of me thinks its amazing how it has worked. I seriously haven't had any negative people in my team at all over the course of the whole ban thing. Seriously how hard is it to swear/shout/flame/whatever another player? Ideally this would be the only criteria for getting a ban really.

On the other hand its so easily abused by stacks on either side as the threshold is so low for a ban. The chatwheel reinstatement is a definite good move as well. Overall I think I'm honestly in favour of the chat ban tbh. Its interesting to see some people seriously say "I only told him to stop fucking feeding noob" and think thats ok. Hell this ban has definitely helped me not flame people as well..
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:51:35
April 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#52822
It could detect if people in the same game are in the same party, or give more power to the first report for each game, making several reports in a single game less meaningful than reports spread on several games. Who knows, maybe there actually are some variables the system takes into account that we just don't have any information about.

In the end the idea has merit. It still needs some work, but if your team often believes they are better off not having to listen to you, perhaps you are not being as helpfull as you think you are.

I wouldn't think it would be wrong if every case you get reported by all 4 members of your team, you have your chat privileges revoked for the remainder of the match, as long as the ban is lifted as soon as the game ends if it's not a repeated offense. The issue is that it could lead to griefing, but even if it's an unjust ban, if all 4 players don't want to talk to you, it's not like you really have a reason to talk to them.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
April 23 2013 00:04 GMT
#52823
On April 23 2013 08:47 SKC wrote:
It could detect if people in the same game are in the same party, or give more power to the first report for each game, making several reports in a single game less meaningful than reports spread on several games. Who knows, maybe there actually are some variables the system takes into account that we just don't have any information about.

In the end the idea has merit. It still needs some work, but if your team often believes they are better off not having to listen to you, perhaps you are not being as helpfull as you think you are.

I wouldn't think it would be wrong if every case you get reported by all 4 members of your team, you have your chat privileges revoked for the remainder of the match, as long as the ban is lifted as soon as the game ends if it's not a repeated offense. The issue is that it could lead to griefing, but even if it's an unjust ban, if all 4 players don't want to talk to you, it's not like you really have a reason to talk to them.

You do know there is an ignore function?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 00:13:18
April 23 2013 00:09 GMT
#52824
On April 23 2013 09:04 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 08:47 SKC wrote:
It could detect if people in the same game are in the same party, or give more power to the first report for each game, making several reports in a single game less meaningful than reports spread on several games. Who knows, maybe there actually are some variables the system takes into account that we just don't have any information about.

In the end the idea has merit. It still needs some work, but if your team often believes they are better off not having to listen to you, perhaps you are not being as helpfull as you think you are.

I wouldn't think it would be wrong if every case you get reported by all 4 members of your team, you have your chat privileges revoked for the remainder of the match, as long as the ban is lifted as soon as the game ends if it's not a repeated offense. The issue is that it could lead to griefing, but even if it's an unjust ban, if all 4 players don't want to talk to you, it's not like you really have a reason to talk to them.

You do know there is an ignore function?

Ignore doesn't add anything to his record, and doesn't even tell him he has been ignored. Taking away his chat rights feels better than just making him feel like he is talking to himself, so he can go to the QQ thread complain about queuing with people that don't know how to communicate or even believe nationality had something to do with it.

It's not a huge diference, but I think it's good when the both sides know what is actually happening. Reporting and saying "reported" in chat feels really childish to me, in this case it would only happen if everyone had the same idea.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 23 2013 01:12 GMT
#52825
So how is Skywrath Mage? He looks amazing but I don't know if he fits in with the current metagame at all.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 01:37:21
April 23 2013 01:36 GMT
#52826
On April 23 2013 10:12 KillerSOS wrote:
So how is Skywrath Mage? He looks amazing but I don't know if he fits in with the current metagame at all.

Sickening stronk with good items. Nuker just like tinker. Squishy too. Could be ran as support too but late game he becomes a CM. Ult landing need a bit of practice.

Found out arcane bolt doesnt disjoint by invisibility today as i picked weaver T_T....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 23 2013 01:37 GMT
#52827
On April 23 2013 10:12 KillerSOS wrote:
So how is Skywrath Mage? He looks amazing but I don't know if he fits in with the current metagame at all.

I do believe he is a great anti-PL hero. It sounds stupid, but his second skill and his ultimate are not affected by illusions - which means you can find the real PL early on. He also has a silence + magic resist removal in one skill, both of which hurts PL badly(since he has a high magic resistance thanks to his ultimate). Finally, he has an overall insane damage to deal on other enemies, being a really good mid hero.
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
April 23 2013 01:42 GMT
#52828
^^ he is really squishy though, very gankable, thats the real problem with him. No escape mechanism too.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#52829
Holy shit, EG moved their dota squad into EGLair in Azn.... this could be their redemption for TI3!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 23 2013 01:49 GMT
#52830
On April 23 2013 10:44 NB wrote:
Holy shit, EG moved their dota squad into EGLair in Azn.... this could be their redemption for TI3!


They've got little time to earn the invite... They need to use this G-1 miracle to their advantage.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 23 2013 01:53 GMT
#52831
On April 23 2013 10:42 dartoo wrote:
^^ he is really squishy though, very gankable, thats the real problem with him. No escape mechanism too.



Yup first match i get to play vs random gold nyx mid...
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
April 23 2013 02:04 GMT
#52832
The benefits of having a Yango? There's pretty much no point to argue with obviously wrong people in dota2 forums. Yango will do it for us. Yango too stronk, nerf pls!

Skywrath Mage is a fun hero, like timbersaw, but pretty pointless in a real game. It has no real team fight ability except the ancient seal, and is extremely gankable. Nyx and pugna counters it too much. I don't ever use Skywrath when there's either hero on the field.

And I go nyx when I see a Skywrath. Easiest kills of my life
Mew Mew Pew Pew
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 23 2013 02:18 GMT
#52833
On April 23 2013 11:04 Mithhaike wrote:
The benefits of having a Yango? There's pretty much no point to argue with obviously wrong people in dota2 forums. Yango will do it for us. Yango too stronk, nerf pls!

Skywrath Mage is a fun hero, like timbersaw, but pretty pointless in a real game. It has no real team fight ability except the ancient seal, and is extremely gankable. Nyx and pugna counters it too much. I don't ever use Skywrath when there's either hero on the field.

And I go nyx when I see a Skywrath. Easiest kills of my life


Yeah that was a long game... I knew I was screwed as soon as I saw it.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 23 2013 02:37 GMT
#52834
On April 23 2013 10:49 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:44 NB wrote:
Holy shit, EG moved their dota squad into EGLair in Azn.... this could be their redemption for TI3!


They've got little time to earn the invite... They need to use this G-1 miracle to their advantage.

well they already beat Liquid 2-0(?) in the weplay group. Just need to make bamboe into line up and kick bdiz.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
April 23 2013 02:46 GMT
#52835
On April 23 2013 11:37 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:49 ketomai wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:44 NB wrote:
Holy shit, EG moved their dota squad into EGLair in Azn.... this could be their redemption for TI3!


They've got little time to earn the invite... They need to use this G-1 miracle to their advantage.

well they already beat Liquid 2-0(?) in the weplay group. Just need to make bamboe into line up and kick bdiz.

i agree completely
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 23 2013 02:52 GMT
#52836
We need an item named after Yango... Or rename the current drums to Yango.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 23 2013 02:57 GMT
#52837
Fellow TL dota2 GD posters, i have a confession to make

I like to max poison sting on Venomancer.

I feel like such a fool
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 03:00:20
April 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#52838
On April 23 2013 11:57 Shaella wrote:
Fellow TL dota2 GD posters, i have a confession to make

I like to max poison sting on Venomancer.

I feel like such a fool


don't feel so bad. I do the same thing. Max poison sting first along with venom gale. Skip ulti on most cases too and wait until Lvl. 9 to get that.

easy pub stomp. as long as gale doesn't miss, it's most certainly a kill.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#52839
Yeah Poison sting just does such good damage early on
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
April 23 2013 03:04 GMT
#52840
On April 23 2013 11:52 trinxified wrote:
We need an item named after Yango... Or rename the current drums to Yango.

D-do you love yango?
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