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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 20 2013 06:47 GMT
#52421
Maybe it's because I haven't seen a skywrath snowball, but I feel like outside of his ulti which hurts ALOT, he's basically a walking orchid with an annoying but poor slow.

I had some bad experience with weaver, forgetting that he had the silence over and over (still won but I died 2-3 times out of 4 like that iirc, shit was dumb)
In the woods, there lurks..
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 06:49:45
April 20 2013 06:48 GMT
#52422
Skywrath is in CM mode?

The hero is still bugged.
Play your best
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 20 2013 06:53 GMT
#52423
On April 20 2013 15:48 FakeDeath wrote:
Skywrath is in CM mode?

The hero is still bugged.

How? He's considered the first (possibly first?) bug-less release. He' also in CM mode in dota 1.

Also dota 2 chinese servers apparently won't be totally cut off from the rest of the world -
At the currently on-going Perfect World event, CEO Robert Hong Xiao has given the word that the first beta wave of the Chinese Dota 2 servers will be coming later this month, on April 28.

According to the details, this will mark the end of Dota 2 via the Steam platform in China — it is yet to be seen whether Chinese players will have free interactions with international players (we hope that everything remains open).

Update: Chinese Dota 2 will run on a stripped down version of Steam, re-done specifically for Dota 2 in China. Inter-connectivity between players around the world will remain!

http://dotaland.net/2013/04/19/chinese-dota-2-server-beta-coming-april-28/
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 06:57:47
April 20 2013 06:56 GMT
#52424
On April 20 2013 15:47 Iplaythings wrote:
Maybe it's because I haven't seen a skywrath snowball, but I feel like outside of his ulti which hurts ALOT, he's basically a walking orchid with an annoying but poor slow.

I had some bad experience with weaver, forgetting that he had the silence over and over (still won but I died 2-3 times out of 4 like that iirc, shit was dumb)

Have you laned against the hero? The number of heroes he can't solo kill (or at least force enough damage on to push them out of lane) at level 3 is surprisingly small.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 07:02:16
April 20 2013 06:58 GMT
#52425
Well, they'd have been stupid not to. The scene is pretty much built around the premise of Westerners v China.

Korok has played Skywrath the last 3 games on his stream (Maybe more but thats how long i've been tuned in for), i'm contacting Valve in regards to a name change to Snowball Mage.
Game 2 that I watched had a first pick Pugna (they're playing TMM) but he went offlane and got destroyed by the Tri they were running, it was pretty entertaining.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 20 2013 07:08 GMT
#52426
On April 20 2013 15:53 Nevuk wrote:
Also dota 2 chinese servers apparently won't be totally cut off from the rest of the world -
Show nested quote +
At the currently on-going Perfect World event, CEO Robert Hong Xiao has given the word that the first beta wave of the Chinese Dota 2 servers will be coming later this month, on April 28.

According to the details, this will mark the end of Dota 2 via the Steam platform in China — it is yet to be seen whether Chinese players will have free interactions with international players (we hope that everything remains open).

Update: Chinese Dota 2 will run on a stripped down version of Steam, re-done specifically for Dota 2 in China. Inter-connectivity between players around the world will remain!

http://dotaland.net/2013/04/19/chinese-dota-2-server-beta-coming-april-28/

Great news!
super gg
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
April 20 2013 07:20 GMT
#52427
On April 20 2013 10:19 Shaella wrote:
I'm convinced that Skywrath is terrible


well, I just watched Kurok play mid Skywrath and he convinced me that the hero is OP as fuck so :S

he just wrecked faces everywhere
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 20 2013 07:30 GMT
#52428
just because one person is convinced while not giving any reasons as to why hes convinced doesn't actually mean its necessarily a true fact
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 20 2013 07:31 GMT
#52429
On April 20 2013 16:30 FinestHour wrote:
just because one person is convinced while not giving any reasons as to why hes convinced doesn't actually mean its necessarily a true fact

Thats true.
(He just strikes me as very similar to OD)
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 20 2013 07:41 GMT
#52430
On April 20 2013 15:53 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 15:48 FakeDeath wrote:
Skywrath is in CM mode?

The hero is still bugged.

How? He's considered the first (possibly first?) bug-less release. He' also in CM mode in dota 1.

Also dota 2 chinese servers apparently won't be totally cut off from the rest of the world -
Show nested quote +
At the currently on-going Perfect World event, CEO Robert Hong Xiao has given the word that the first beta wave of the Chinese Dota 2 servers will be coming later this month, on April 28.

According to the details, this will mark the end of Dota 2 via the Steam platform in China — it is yet to be seen whether Chinese players will have free interactions with international players (we hope that everything remains open).

Update: Chinese Dota 2 will run on a stripped down version of Steam, re-done specifically for Dota 2 in China. Inter-connectivity between players around the world will remain!

http://dotaland.net/2013/04/19/chinese-dota-2-server-beta-coming-april-28/

So happy, I just shed a manly tear.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
April 20 2013 07:58 GMT
#52431
On April 20 2013 16:31 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 16:30 FinestHour wrote:
just because one person is convinced while not giving any reasons as to why hes convinced doesn't actually mean its necessarily a true fact

Thats true.
(He just strikes me as very similar to OD)


that's what I thought as well (based on the dota cinema intro movie of his), but watching Kurok play him made me realize how incredibly aggressive SM is. All of his abilities are offensivly oriented, whereas OD has the orb attack and the huge CD ult, both of which aren't nearly as agressive as the SM counterparts.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 20 2013 07:59 GMT
#52432
just coordinate a stun or cc of some kind with the ult to instagib a high priority target in teamfights and its really fun to play him
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 08:13:05
April 20 2013 08:09 GMT
#52433
On April 20 2013 12:09 PassiveAce wrote:
Wait, if im reading the news section right, they are going to start actually banning in addition to putting people in low p q.

For "communication abuse" only yea
sigh i just don't understand this
Why do developers feel that they need to crack down on shit talking and flaming as much as possible but ragequitting is a lesser evil?
Yesterday I literally had 3 games in a row where someone would just leave after loosing a lane or getting firstblooded in the first 5-10 minutes,practically wasted one hour of my life on nothing.
Communication abuse,give me a fucking break,there's a block button,people should learn to fucking use it.
Cackle™
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 20 2013 08:20 GMT
#52434
This guy is already one of my fav heroes. So sick.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
PromisE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Philippines151 Posts
April 20 2013 08:23 GMT
#52435
On April 20 2013 16:58 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 16:31 Shaella wrote:
On April 20 2013 16:30 FinestHour wrote:
just because one person is convinced while not giving any reasons as to why hes convinced doesn't actually mean its necessarily a true fact

Thats true.
(He just strikes me as very similar to OD)


that's what I thought as well (based on the dota cinema intro movie of his), but watching Kurok play him made me realize how incredibly aggressive SM is. All of his abilities are offensivly oriented, whereas OD has the orb attack and the huge CD ult, both of which aren't nearly as agressive as the SM counterparts.


That's basically how he's played here. Build up your core and get some xp. Afterwards, try to kill as many heroes as possible. He's a terrible farmer but he scales well.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 08:29:32
April 20 2013 08:25 GMT
#52436
On April 20 2013 16:31 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 16:30 FinestHour wrote:
just because one person is convinced while not giving any reasons as to why hes convinced doesn't actually mean its necessarily a true fact

Thats true.
(He just strikes me as very similar to OD)

OD has shorter effective range (450 range Orb vs 800 range Arcane Bolt), has a far longer CD ultimate, and generally requires more items to be effective (OD needs his first major item to really be "combat-ready", Skywrath is ready to kill people at level 6/7). OD is however stronger later, as his damage overall scales out better and he has far better stat gains.

The only really good comparison between the two is that they're both strong in lane and both have an awkward time fighting through BKBs.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 20 2013 08:35 GMT
#52437
Does that thing about the chinese having a stripped down version of steam that can interact with the west deserve its own thread? I was so worried about the alternative.

Also as far as I can tell the ban thing it seems to be referring to just banning people from ... talking. (Why would the punishment for text abuse be worse than feeding incessantly?)
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
April 20 2013 08:35 GMT
#52438
On April 20 2013 16:20 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 10:19 Shaella wrote:
I'm convinced that Skywrath is terrible


well, I just watched Kurok play mid Skywrath and he convinced me that the hero is OP as fuck so :S

he just wrecked faces everywhere

Korok, Kuroky or someone else entirely?
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 20 2013 08:40 GMT
#52439
On April 20 2013 17:35 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 16:20 hooahah wrote:
On April 20 2013 10:19 Shaella wrote:
I'm convinced that Skywrath is terrible


well, I just watched Kurok play mid Skywrath and he convinced me that the hero is OP as fuck so :S

he just wrecked faces everywhere

Korok, Kuroky or someone else entirely?

kuronity
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 20 2013 08:41 GMT
#52440
On April 20 2013 17:09 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 12:09 PassiveAce wrote:
Wait, if im reading the news section right, they are going to start actually banning in addition to putting people in low p q.

For "communication abuse" only yea
sigh i just don't understand this
Why do developers feel that they need to crack down on shit talking and flaming as much as possible but ragequitting is a lesser evil?
Yesterday I literally had 3 games in a row where someone would just leave after loosing a lane or getting firstblooded in the first 5-10 minutes,practically wasted one hour of my life on nothing.
Communication abuse,give me a fucking break,there's a block button,people should learn to fucking use it.

If someone leaves in the first 5-10 minutes it wastes max 10-15 minutes of your time, not an hour.

Quitting is treated harshly. 2-3 quits and you're in LPQ, where normal people don't have to deal with them.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
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