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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#52101
As blizzard is ditching NASL on the WCS deal, Gretorp is now streaming DotA2 on his stream playing storm. Now that we got a league, we need to find teams to play in it =)).... Root gaming still alive?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 18 2013 00:59 GMT
#52102
How would you guys build Skywrath mage?

Max Ancient Seal and Arcane Bolt into Concussive Shell.
Wand, Arcane Boots, Mekansm, Atos?

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 18 2013 01:27 GMT
#52103
On April 18 2013 09:21 NB wrote:
As blizzard is ditching NASL on the WCS deal, Gretorp is now streaming DotA2 on his stream playing storm. Now that we got a league, we need to find teams to play in it =)).... Root gaming still alive?


apparently they are, there's a team playing under the ROOT tag in the Netolic Pro League

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405727
ffxiv enjoyer
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 18 2013 01:34 GMT
#52104
dam root gaming is still alive
wheres my teamliquid.net root gaming dota 2 icon support USAUSAUSA
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#52105
On April 18 2013 10:34 FinestHour wrote:
dam root gaming is still alive
wheres my teamliquid.net root gaming dota 2 icon support USAUSAUSA

should be the same icon with root.sc2 no?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 18 2013 01:51 GMT
#52106
On April 18 2013 02:58 InfectedGoat wrote:
Dota 2 with digital vibrance over 70% is so much more beautiful, you guys should try it.

I've tried this and I dunno, I see absolutely no difference
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
April 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#52107
On April 18 2013 09:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
How would you guys build Skywrath mage?

Max Ancient Seal and Arcane Bolt into Concussive Shell.
Wand, Arcane Boots, Mekansm, Atos?



http://www.playdota.com/guides/the-arcane-witchcraft

based on the guide.

max arcane bolt for more dps though

Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 18 2013 02:25 GMT
#52108
I think support Drow could work in pro games. Not even kidding. Silence + Aura + Frost Arrows are all pretty great and she does good damage without any farm anyway.

Nobody is talking about Tusk though. Guess I don't see him ever getting picked either. He doesn't really bring much to the table IMO.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 18 2013 03:09 GMT
#52109
Yeah her Frost Arrows is actually the redeeming factor. 60% is huge.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 03:13:58
April 18 2013 03:10 GMT
#52110
Drow would be awful in a trilane versus trilane scenario as a support. Drow is already bad enough as your carry lacking burst damage.

On April 18 2013 12:09 trinxified wrote:
Yeah her Frost Arrows is actually the redeeming factor. 60% is huge.


How do you expect to survive to level 7 exactly?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
April 18 2013 03:27 GMT
#52111
Maybe in 1v1 matchup she can survive but against offlaner such as LD or Bat..they just kill Drow outright though.
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
April 18 2013 03:57 GMT
#52112
On April 18 2013 11:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I think support Drow could work in pro games. Not even kidding. Silence + Aura + Frost Arrows are all pretty great and she does good damage without any farm anyway.

Nobody is talking about Tusk though. Guess I don't see him ever getting picked either. He doesn't really bring much to the table IMO.


Honest question: why would anyone pick Tusk when there's Nyx? Nyx does all of the same jobs, but better. Superior in every way imho.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 18 2013 03:58 GMT
#52113
On April 18 2013 12:57 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 11:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I think support Drow could work in pro games. Not even kidding. Silence + Aura + Frost Arrows are all pretty great and she does good damage without any farm anyway.

Nobody is talking about Tusk though. Guess I don't see him ever getting picked either. He doesn't really bring much to the table IMO.


Honest question: why would anyone pick Tusk when there's Nyx? Nyx does all of the same jobs, but better. Superior in every way imho.

They won't, but Nyx usually doesn't make it through bans.
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Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 05:41:42
April 18 2013 04:21 GMT
#52114
Random thoughts: So, yesterday I got a new mouse and I decided that I wouldn't play any matchmaking until I got used to it. As an alternative, I started playing practice games, 1 v 5 Unfair bots. And for some reason, I ended up playing ten hours worth of these games trying to figure out which heroes are best suited for this situation.

The only hero I've actually won with is Slark because being able to attack while invisible versus bots that prefer dust over sentries is invaluable, along with his high mobility to be able to deviate their inevitable 5-man push that happens when all of my tier 1 towers are down. I've had decent chances with Pudge (getting Urn, Force Staff, and Agh's for the midgame while racking up Flesh Heap - transitioning into MoM, Heart, Cuirass, Basher once the rax start falling), and Kunnka (must have gotten at least six ultra kills/rampages but I was never quick enough to push a lane without them barreling down another).

This is actually how I'm going to spend most of my time on DotA now, just trying to beat 5 Unfair bots with every hero in the pool.

EDIT: Doing this has made me realize how ridiculous Necrolyte is when a last-hitting machine is playing him.

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UPDATE: Weaver joins Slark in winning, unsurprisingly with how mobile they both are.

UPDATE #2: Who needs to be mobile when you can go man mode with Armlet and Aegis? Huskar joins the previous two.

UPDATE #3: Medusa seems to legitimately scare enemy AI. Every time they tried to push into the base, I'd throw a snake, and they'd run to the nearest creep wave back. Eventually farmed Rapier and throned. Medusa joins the bunch.

UPDATE #4: Centaur Warchief. 289 Strength. Added to the list.

UPDATE #5: Lone Druid seems to set the tone that pushing power will win no matter what. Welcome to the group.

UPDATE #6: Enchantress remains a top mid 1v1 hero. Only problem was trying to push with auto-attacks while I waited for the AI to revive. She joins the previous six.

UPDATE #7: Venomancer surprisingly destroys the enemy team and hits t4's in 30 minutes.

UPDATE #8: Drow. 20 minutes mega creeps. 21 minutes victory.

UPDATE #9: Shadow Fiend's pretty fun. Pushing prevails. Added to the list.

UPDATE #10: Invoker rushing double Forge Spirits into Deso + max Alacrity, Cuirass = 30 minute throne.

UPDATE #11: With all of the previous Razor discussion I decided to try him out when I knew I could win against the mid, and wow, do I like his ultimate for pushing. Unfortunately it was underwhelming until I had Aghanim's (of course), Deso, and Cuirass. But then it became extremely satisfying to watch their throne melt in 5 seconds. Welcome Razor.

UPDATE #12: After about six games of inability to do anything when the five AI grouped up, I managed to win with Morphling after methodically snowballing across the map while pushing. Only had to defend once, and it was a short-lived effort. Finally, I can stop playing Morphling in 30+ minute games to realize I can't do anything!

UPDATE #13: Tiny with Agh's, Cuirass, and MoM by 25 minutes goes into a bar.

UPDATE #14: I felt from the beginning with Bloodseeker's attack buff and ability to pick off heroes would have been an easy win, but it took me at least ten games to finally trade one lane for mega creeps and eventually kill their entire team. Rushed Radiance for the first time and it seemed to do the charm.

UPDATE #15: Forgot to keep up with this. Sniper, Phantom Lancer, Gyrocopter, Visage, Slardar, and Storm Spirit join the pool. 21 heroes in total so far!

UPDATE #16: Another multi-hero update including Chen, Leshrac, Windrunner, Faceless Void, Anti-Mage, Templar Assassin, and Magnus. 28 heroes in total!

UPDATE #17: Almost a month later, I think. A smaller update as the hero pool slims down: Viper, Alchemist, Shadow Demon, and Lina. 32 heroes in total.

UPDATE #18: Another small update containing Mirana, Dragon Knight, and Timbersaw. 35 heroes.

UPDATE #19: Yet another day ending up relatively small. Night Stalker and Kunnka (FINALLY!) join the bunch. 37 heroes in total.

UPDATE #20: This is a more plentiful update: Rubick, Spirit Breaker, Juggernaut, Puck, Broodmother, Naga Siren, Nature's Prophet, Sven, Bounty Hunter (This was the most one-sided stomp with 1300 GPM), and Bristleback. That's 47 heroes now!
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
April 18 2013 05:52 GMT
#52115
anyone want to pub stomp right now allpick
uswest/east?
我是冠军
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 06:04:38
April 18 2013 06:01 GMT
#52116
Just noticed a small (bit funny) thing on Fear's stream. EG Dota players keeps showing an sponsor ad or whatever to a site/section for LoL guides, itembuilds etc. Dunno, maybe they should expand a bit and do it for Dota 2, when it comes to their game.

+ Show Spoiler +
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"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 06:18:23
April 18 2013 06:18 GMT
#52117
LolKing is basically the same thing as Dotabuff.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 06:38:30
April 18 2013 06:37 GMT
#52118
On April 18 2013 08:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 08:25 Kipsate wrote:
I am not sure if Drow Ranger is the strongest tri on tri lanes, she has 625 range and a potential orbwalk(but you probably want to get aura). The aura does make your supports(and other ranged lanes) stronger but she doesn't have any survivability or nuke damage, shes not that great mid(as she can't push or use runes properly) and I don't see her work well in 1v1 situations where the enemy creepskips or just nukes her down. I think she is powerful and will definitely see play but I find it hard to see her laning stage go well.


The problem with drow aura is that it makes it impossible to freeze the lane; it gives the ranged creep too much damage. The only lane where this would be playable is mid since both sides tend to just nuke the wave down, but it could also put you into an easily gankable position.


why would you get aura in laning phase?

Unless you're trying to get kills, it's pretty pointless. If you're trying to freeze the lane then you probably don't want aura.

e: even if you're trying to get kills at level 4 it's better to put more points into silence, or hell, even stats, rather than aura.

Aura will give you like maybe 4 damage if you skill it at level 4, stats will at least give you that and a bit of strength.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 18 2013 06:43 GMT
#52119
Haven't we had this aura-lane discussion few times before?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
April 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#52120
You can turn the aura off so it won't affect creeps. 1 level in aura early is always good since it's 14% at level 1 and +6% per level. She's fragile but only needs levels to be effective.
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