Oh yeah and he can 1v9.
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Oh yeah and he can 1v9. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:26 wherebugsgo wrote: not dying, farming well, contributing to his team's win basically. Burning is probably unparalleled in being able to pull his team to a win single-handedly. To me, the biggest difference between him (being the best carry in this universe) and other carry players is that his thinking on buying what items under any situation is always the most solid way to ensure the team to win. Being solid is not being passive/pussy, he simply has the best understanding of what/how/when to buy what items for his heroes that matches with his crazy farming skill. And his perseverance of doing his very best in everything no matter how far behind his team is. Goddamn I am changing my favourite team to DK because I flamed them alot when they were playing bad (but i always say burning did a great job). And i need to watch that Game1 of DK vs LGD.int again, B-God <3 edit: hell yeah, i am now in the DK camp. They may not even close to being the top3 of g1 atm but I am just a 'braindead fan' of B-God here, gogo previous champion you can do it! | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:35 BurningSera wrote: To me, the biggest difference between him (being the best carry in this universe) and other carry players is that his thinking on buying what items under any situation is always the most solid way to ensure the team to win. Being solid is not being passive/pussy, he simply has the best understanding of what/how/when to buy what items for his heroes that matches with his crazy farming skill. And his perseverance of doing his very best in everything no matter how far behind his team is. Goddamn I am changing my favourite team to DK because I flamed them alot when they were playing bad (but i always say burning did a great job). And i need to watch that Game1 of DK vs LGD.int again, B-God <3 edit: hell yeah, i am now in the DK camp. They may not even close to being the top3 of g1 atm but I am just a 'braindead fan' of B-God here, gogo previous champion you can do it! huh didnt they lose that game in g league | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:35 BurningSera wrote: To me, the biggest difference between him (being the best carry in this universe) and other carry players is that his thinking on buying what items under any situation is always the most solid way to ensure the team to win. Being solid is not being passive/pussy, he simply has the best understanding of what/how/when to buy what items for his heroes that matches with his crazy farming skill. And his perseverance of doing his very best in everything no matter how far behind his team is. Goddamn I am changing my favourite team to DK because I flamed them alot when they were playing bad (but i always say burning did a great job). And i need to watch that Game1 of DK vs LGD.int again, B-God <3 edit: hell yeah, i am now in the DK camp. They may not even close to being the top3 of g1 atm but I am just a 'braindead fan' of B-God here, gogo previous champion you can do it! I agree, but I don't think he's as good as Zhou or old-ZSMJ, though. I haven't seen much of ZSMJ in dota 2 and he seems a bit rusty, but I do think that with time ZSMJ has the capacity to be better. And to top it off ZSMJ has the support of probably the most talented mid in the world (cty) who is currently showing some huge potential as well. DK is basically nothing without burning and he does an admirable job of keeping his team afloat, but as long as he doesn't play heroes well outside of antimage/sylla/alchemist, he's not going to be as good as Zhou. Burning's biggest weakness IMO is his hero pool/versatility. He sucks in high-tempo, early-mid game oriented matches. I think this was exemplified best when DK put him on slardar last year and he looked like he had no idea what he was doing item and decision-wise. I haven't seen him much on naix, luna, lycan, jug, etc. It's not his style to group and push, but IMO it's probably the best strategy currently. Look at iG: the only really late-game oriented carry they've been picking outside of sylla is PL, and that's probably because PL is really broken with KoTL. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:40 FinestHour wrote: huh didnt they lose that game in g league match that happened about 2days ago, that legendary feeder rotk qop game! I will change back when xy is back/zenith going for the next big tourney. On April 12 2013 10:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I agree, but I don't think he's as good as Zhou or old-ZSMJ, though. I haven't seen much of ZSMJ in dota 2 and he seems a bit rusty, but I do think that with time ZSMJ has the capacity to be better. And to top it off ZSMJ has the support of probably the most talented mid in the world (cty) who is currently showing some huge potential as well. DK is basically nothing without burning and he does an admirable job of keeping his team afloat, but as long as he doesn't play heroes well outside of antimage/sylla/alchemist, he's not going to be as good as Zhou. Burning's biggest weakness IMO is his hero pool/versatility. He sucks in high-tempo, early-mid game oriented matches. I think this was exemplified best when DK put him on slardar last year and he looked like he had no idea what he was doing item and decision-wise. I haven't seen him much on naix, luna, lycan, jug, etc. It's not his style to group and push, but IMO it's probably the best strategy currently. Look at iG: the only really late-game oriented carry they've been picking outside of sylla is PL, and that's probably because PL is really broken with KoTL. ah saying he is the best is just me being a fanboy talking, i love zhou too being the carry who is best at 1 protects 4 lol and a few of vg games happened lately showed that zsmj is still very good but i reserve my opinion until they meet with top tier chinese teams. The thing with Burning is that he played support/hardlane before he became the famous carry player, and seeing that he is willing to play hardlane by giving safelane to rotk.....mad respect to the man being the leader of DK. And i agree on what you said on his versatility of playing certain heroes, he actually didnt play that many heroes like for example it was the first time i saw him on weaver for ages. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
is there a vod somewhere also stuck on finding server for 11 minutes now new personal record LOL | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
I know the opponent was LGD.int and all but still, impressive performance from DK lol. vod: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:58 BurningSera wrote: match that happened about 2days ago, that legendary feeder rotk qop game! I will change back when xy is back/zenith going for the next big tourney. ah saying he is the best is just me being a fanboy talking, i love zhou too being the carry who is best at 1 protects 4 lol and a few of vg games happened lately showed that zsmj is still very good but i reserve my opinion until they meet with top tier chinese teams. The thing with Burning is that he played support/hardlane before he became the famous carry player, and seeing that he is willing to play hardlane by giving safelane to rotk.....mad respect to the man being the leader of DK. And i agree on what you said on his versatility of playing certain heroes, he actually didnt play that many heroes like for example it was the first time i saw him on weaver for ages. burning has played a lot of heroes, more than zsmj ever could: zsmj wished he had a morphling as good as burnings. i was a huge LGD back when zsmj played and literally (literally) only time i thought burning wasnt as good as zsmj was when burning was on CH and zsmj was on FTD and the very early stages of EHOME when nobody knew who the fuck were their carries. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
i only smurf to play with kupo/kollin. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
They were both pretty good on her; I remember watching Burning playing her in the offlane against ZSMJ's medusa back when he still played the 3 role. | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
Burning likes to get involved around the map Zhou is extremely adaptable to different styles and just manages to do what he needs to do Sylar doesn't really fuck up and is very stable if he is given room early on In my opinion it is difficult to compare them objectively because they work differently with their teams. IDK if Burning would do well with LGD for example | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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kethers
United States719 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:30 Nilrem wrote: Man, these constant server hiccups be getting annoying. It feels like it is getting worse. They are. I got at least 20 spikes in my last game, anywhere from 3-8 seconds each. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
(something I translated/adapted at some point from a chinese netizen) Note: Zhou is a transliteration of "舟", which means a small boat, often the traditional Chinese "junk" type of craft If there is one word to describe Zhou's style of DotA, I would choose Burning From the player once protected above all to the jokingly named 4th position, Zhou has always been the consummate carry, the carry most able to aid the team, the carry most able to fight. In many games, he is often not the brightest, not the one to kill the most, but the one most vital to the team. Burning himself to illuminate his teammates, Zhou is that ETERNAL BLAZE, the engine so full of fire that drives the team forward. Burning is Zhou's DotA style! If there is one word to describe Burning's style of DotA, I would choose Zhou From the player who played the best Chen in China to the jokingly named Best Carry in the Universe, what has Burning's dota always felt like to people? Sometimes he's not the one to farm the fastest, not the most ferocious in battle, but always the most consistent. The kind of boat that can keep its compass no matter how fierce the storm, passing through hurricanes and tsunamis to stay the course. Be it a collapsing sky or a sundering earth, to be unflinchingly resolute and steer on despite precipitous weather. Zhou is Burning's DotA style! Zhou burning BurNing zhou, interesting. Duels of destiny often have their serendipitous inevitabilities, the heavens must have been well versed in this when arranging these fated rivals. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On April 12 2013 10:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I agree, but I don't think he's as good as Zhou or old-ZSMJ, though. I haven't seen much of ZSMJ in dota 2 and he seems a bit rusty, but I do think that with time ZSMJ has the capacity to be better. And to top it off ZSMJ has the support of probably the most talented mid in the world (cty) who is currently showing some huge potential as well. DK is basically nothing without burning and he does an admirable job of keeping his team afloat, but as long as he doesn't play heroes well outside of antimage/sylla/alchemist, he's not going to be as good as Zhou. Burning's biggest weakness IMO is his hero pool/versatility. He sucks in high-tempo, early-mid game oriented matches. I think this was exemplified best when DK put him on slardar last year and he looked like he had no idea what he was doing item and decision-wise. I haven't seen him much on naix, luna, lycan, jug, etc. It's not his style to group and push, but IMO it's probably the best strategy currently. Look at iG: the only really late-game oriented carry they've been picking outside of sylla is PL, and that's probably because PL is really broken with KoTL. DK got Super,Rotk,Dai and QQQ. I personally agreed with LD. That DK roster is very talented outside of iG. Saying DK is basically nothing without Burning is nonsense and just your opinion. Just because they prefer to play 4 protect 1 doesn't meant that DK is nothing without Burning. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
NoTidehunters sponsor team. | ||
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Delphiki
Philippines1955 Posts
Is this a swedish organization? Holy | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
So thats why they booted EE | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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