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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 11 2013 21:12 GMT
#51381
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Also, just to clarify. I don't smurf for the reason of stomping noobs, so I hope people aren't getting that impression, lol. I still primarily queue with friends on my smurfs, so the games are still in very high regardless because of it skewing more toward the higher players. And if I do solo my smurf it's after like 20 games and I'm in VH anyways, and the people you queue against are also VH smurfs with 20 games.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 11 2013 21:21 GMT
#51382
On April 12 2013 06:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I can't actually find the match in dotabuff

Ah well. I probably never enabled the 3rd party data on my smurfs.

I neither recall which group of friends I was playing with nor do I recall playing particularly well (that is to say, I thought I played poorly) so don't worry about anything.

I think I found it. You were Bane iirc. It shows your name as anonymous so you didn't have match sharing on for that game.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#51383
On April 12 2013 06:21 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I can't actually find the match in dotabuff

Ah well. I probably never enabled the 3rd party data on my smurfs.

I neither recall which group of friends I was playing with nor do I recall playing particularly well (that is to say, I thought I played poorly) so don't worry about anything.

I think I found it. You were Bane iirc. It shows your name as anonymous so you didn't have match sharing on for that game.


I thought you could see the in-game All-chat on dotabuff?
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 11 2013 21:28 GMT
#51384
On April 12 2013 06:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:21 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 06:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
I can't actually find the match in dotabuff

Ah well. I probably never enabled the 3rd party data on my smurfs.

I neither recall which group of friends I was playing with nor do I recall playing particularly well (that is to say, I thought I played poorly) so don't worry about anything.

I think I found it. You were Bane iirc. It shows your name as anonymous so you didn't have match sharing on for that game.


I thought you could see the in-game All-chat on dotabuff?

I don't think so. You can view the replay though, that will show names. But I was just saying it's probably the reason you can't find it.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
April 11 2013 21:37 GMT
#51385
I made a smurf once. After 3 games I couldn't breathe anymore I was laughing so hard. It was called the "Tax Collector" and all I did was pick AA or furion and run around ks'ing across map yelling "TAX TIME". You just can't get that same level of trolling without smurfing...
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:51:39
April 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#51386
On April 12 2013 05:14 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 05:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
On April 11 2013 15:29 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 11 2013 15:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
On April 11 2013 15:18 Lastbil wrote:
So I just tuned in to LO3 to watch the Loda interview, and I saw that onemoregame is sponsored by Razer, astro and monster. Could that have anything to do with NTH's new sponsor? (We know that their new team should be sponsored by razer/monster/astro)

Razer sponsors everyone and their moms so I wouldn't read too much into that. Astro and Monster are a little more interesting, but could also just be coincidence. I don't know much about OneMoreGame actually.

OneMoreGame's executive producer is SirScoots, who also owns EG. Razer, Astro, and Monster are EG sponsors, so that's probably why.


SirScoots doesn't own EG.

I thought he left EG - what does he do now?


He did left EG. Last time he was the producer for MLG's Blue stream. Nothing else, really.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 11 2013 22:06 GMT
#51387
purge gamers maxes soul catcher last
take notes kids
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
April 11 2013 22:20 GMT
#51388
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 11 2013 22:22 GMT
#51389
On April 12 2013 07:20 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?


Within a few games you get into at least ballpark of where you were/should be.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 11 2013 22:22 GMT
#51390
On April 12 2013 07:20 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?

They might make a small difference, but any player that's actually decent and is smurfing will stomp the first few games either way.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 11 2013 22:23 GMT
#51391
On April 12 2013 07:06 FinestHour wrote:
purge gamers maxes soul catcher last
take notes kids


phase boots as well

what a guy
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
April 11 2013 22:29 GMT
#51392
On April 12 2013 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 07:20 Appendix wrote:
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?

They might make a small difference, but any player that's actually decent and is smurfing will stomp the first few games either way.

Well yes, but if you don't pick the lower alternatives you hopefully get matched up with people who has gotten past their initial impression. Even if it doesn't make a difference to you, you can avoid smashing people taking their first trembling steps into the genre.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 11 2013 22:49 GMT
#51393
On April 12 2013 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 07:20 Appendix wrote:
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?

They might make a small difference, but any player that's actually decent and is smurfing will stomp the first few games either way.

That's the point though. If you pick the medium or high skill option, then in those first few games, you're not ruining the experience for players who selected low/medium.

Each game has 9 other players in it, even if it only takes you 3-4 more games to move to where you should be, that's like 30 people who got terrible games because you crushed so hard.
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givemefive
Profile Joined April 2010
United States300 Posts
April 11 2013 22:58 GMT
#51394
Love the 3-4 second game wide spikes.. GG valve.
givemefive
Profile Joined April 2010
United States300 Posts
April 11 2013 23:00 GMT
#51395
On April 12 2013 07:06 FinestHour wrote:
purge gamers maxes soul catcher last
take notes kids



Soul catcher last can be viable if you think disruption twice per fight is more useful.

Soul catcher is shadow demon's least reliable spell with disruption being point click and shadow poision being AOE there is little reason to max soul catcher unless you have another support with a huge nuke.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 00:20:43
April 12 2013 00:15 GMT
#51396
Anyone else have been getting outrageously long "Finding Server" recently, like in the last few days ?

Holy shit that makes 9/10 like 10 times more infuriating.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 12 2013 00:15 GMT
#51397
On April 12 2013 07:49 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 07:22 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 07:20 Appendix wrote:
On April 12 2013 06:12 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 12 2013 05:57 Unleashing wrote:
Then why make a smurf lowskill? You can also choose the middle-option when making a new account.
This way you're not fucking up the game for completely new people while also not playing on a highly ranked account.

I personally suck it up, i wouldn't want to ruin new players experience by smurfing, not even when playing with friends. But to each their own.

Those options don't really make a difference tbh.

Why wouldn't they make a difference?

They might make a small difference, but any player that's actually decent and is smurfing will stomp the first few games either way.

That's the point though. If you pick the medium or high skill option, then in those first few games, you're not ruining the experience for players who selected low/medium.

Each game has 9 other players in it, even if it only takes you 3-4 more games to move to where you should be, that's like 30 people who got terrible games because you crushed so hard.

Basically, my original point when saying
Those options don't really make a difference

was that it doesn't matter at all what option you pick if you're a decent player who is solo smurfing. The first few games will be 30-0 stomps most of the time, so either way you would be ruining the game if you are a good player, even if you choose Familiar or Experienced. However, the options do have significant importance for actual new players. The small differences between someone who has no idea, and a small idea, is massive.

Picking experienced might help a little bit, because those 9 players may not be as discouraged after getting destroyed as someone completely new, but it still won't save them from getting stomped.(obviously not 100% of the time.)


that's like 30 people who got terrible games because you crushed so hard

I hope this wasn't directed at me, lol. I stated last page, or the one before last, that I don't make smurfs to stomp new players, and I queue the first 20 or so games with people I know who are page 1-10 players anyways. Or at the least they are VH players, so the games aren't against new players. Although some of them are still stomps because that's what happens when you stack
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 12 2013 01:20 GMT
#51398
People are saying that Burning is #1 carry, i know this is subjective, but what makes him #1? the number of kills he gets?
i know he farms very fast.

in general, what makes a good carry?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 12 2013 01:26 GMT
#51399
On April 12 2013 10:20 icystorage wrote:
People are saying that Burning is #1 carry, i know this is subjective, but what makes him #1? the number of kills he gets?
i know he farms very fast.

in general, what makes a good carry?


not dying, farming well, contributing to his team's win basically.

Burning is probably unparalleled in being able to pull his team to a win single-handedly.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 12 2013 01:28 GMT
#51400
I'm just so happy that Burning builds bfury alch
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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