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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 12 2013 00:18 GMT
#47121
On March 12 2013 09:18 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 09:13 FinestHour wrote:
On March 12 2013 09:06 rabidch wrote:
lol at these people who thought NA had watchers

and urna swarm was a very good spell provided proper micro


nice silver coins man

holla holla get dolla

blahz0r has gold coins
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 00:19 GMT
#47122
Funniest tweet I have ever seen. Well played Godz, well played. :D
super gg
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 00:34:55
March 12 2013 00:32 GMT
#47123
On March 12 2013 07:50 Wysp wrote:
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On March 12 2013 07:48 Jetaap wrote:
On March 12 2013 07:47 Wysp wrote:
Niax is the best hero vs Nyx because he can rage and kill him, while anyone hero will need a BKB to do this.

Yes he is good, but that won't prevent nyx from killing supports and mana burn everyone.
Certainly one of the best choice vs nyx, but not a hard counter per say.


I don't think his ability to gib heroes is what people find most annoying, or what is actually imbalanced about him, its his 5 second long 'touch me and I run away' skill that also happens to act like ravage in team fights. Niax is pretty much the only hero who can make you feel hopeless on nyx
.

One hero, and certainly not naix, cannot hard counter nyx. Nyx will destroy your supports and anyone else without magic immune. This is like saying once you get Bkb nyx isn't good anymore.

Also, no way in hell does naix deserve nerfs. LGD.int showed just how well a weaver can do against a lifestealer, even with longlane farm.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
March 12 2013 00:36 GMT
#47124
Anyone else not able to get onto dota 2 right now? I'm getting that "Connecting to dota 2 network" thing.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 12 2013 00:43 GMT
#47125
Works for me. Might be regional / on your end.
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
March 12 2013 00:46 GMT
#47126
Nyx play is about creating an environment where the opposing team feels incredibly oppressed to spread out and acquire farm. Spiked carapace is really annoying but it's this ability to put out pressure without any items is what makes him such a high priority pick/ban.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
March 12 2013 00:48 GMT
#47127
On March 12 2013 07:09 Laurens wrote:
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On March 12 2013 06:57 RageBot wrote:
On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago.


In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx?

My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory.

Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...


I pick drow.
They pick bullshit, they get bullshit.


nyx can 1v1 drow all game long?
I pick nyx to counter drow, rather than the other way around


You assume I play against good people.
Haee
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
522 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 01:07:03
March 12 2013 01:06 GMT
#47128
The Defense 3 Spoilers
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I didn't really realize until H4nn1's interview that a late game alchemist is supposed to straight up win agaisnt a Naix with equal farm, I thought it would be the other way around.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 12 2013 01:16 GMT
#47129
well i imagine if you got monkey king bar and abyssal blade, naix cant even touch you
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 12 2013 01:17 GMT
#47130
On March 12 2013 10:06 Haee wrote:
The Defense 3 Spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't really realize until H4nn1's interview that a late game alchemist is supposed to straight up win agaisnt a Naix with equal farm, I thought it would be the other way around.


+ Show Spoiler +
Alchemist should lose any manfight they get into on equal items. The thing is Fnatic had three magic immunity piercing stuns to lockdown naix so it should never be a manfight. There was also a point where they got into a manfight at Liquid's racks and alchemist got destroyed despite being ahead on items so ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 12 2013 01:24 GMT
#47131
He died because of soulcatcher and other debuffs. Not because of naix.
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
March 12 2013 01:35 GMT
#47132
Alch > Naix lategame. With AC and Abyssal Blade you mitigate most of Naix's feast survivability/dps.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
March 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#47133
surely it has more to do with who gets luckier with bashes than anything in pure 1v1
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 12 2013 01:37 GMT
#47134
alch ult base attackspeed is why he is so stupidly strong.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 12 2013 01:38 GMT
#47135
1.0 BAT is sick. Lategame Alch in ult form destroys most carries in a matter of seconds.
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
March 12 2013 01:38 GMT
#47136
Alchemist hits faster, which increases your likelihood of bashing. His ulti also grants him a bunch of hp regen and the -armor from acid spray is no joke.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 12 2013 01:40 GMT
#47137
Alchemist has 1.0 BAT with level 3 ultimate, so he gets 5 attacks per second with max attackspeed, as opposed to around 3 which heroes with 1.7 BAT get. That is absolutely insane and it's why dps items scale so fucking well on him later on.
super gg
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
March 12 2013 01:50 GMT
#47138
im back off my ban! :D

Alchemist i found him to be super useful against Nature Prophets. All those treants are free gold because of goblin greed, you gain a lot from killing those treants compared to other people.

I would even venture to say Alc is a natural counter to NP.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Daaktard
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden380 Posts
March 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#47139
Why dont teams pick up alch more? There has to be a reason because he does have great skills and since the buff I expected to see him more than this.

Can't go wrong with 1.0 BAT!
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 12 2013 01:55 GMT
#47140
Then alch is a supernatural counter to Undying and Broodmother for tombstone and spiderlings?
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