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On March 12 2013 05:17 Kuroeeah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:21 SilverStar wrote:On March 12 2013 04:17 Aurrius wrote:I wonder how David Kim and Dustin Browder would balance DotA 2 (because im watching this HotS Party Launch thing)  Add destructabel rocks in lane and in front of rosh. •General -Aegis redesigned! Aegis is once again a purchasable item that requires Heart of Terrasque, a Vanguard and a Poor Mans Shield as well as 1800 gold recipe to form into an Aegis of the Immortal. There will only be 1 Aegis Recipe in stock and restocks after every 6 minutes. -Mask of Madness redesigned! Once used, the wearer loses approximately 15% total hp and gain 50% extra attack speed as well as a 30% movement speed increase for 10 seconds. No cooldown and the wearer can not kill himself under activating it. -Roshan instead of dropping Aegis or Cheese on death becomes a controllable unit that is shared across the team that has defeated him as well as immediately replenishing his total health. Roshan will respawn at his pit after 10 minutes upon his death as well as maintaining the distributive bounty and experience the team gains from killing him. There are also indestructible rocks that prevents the player from accessing the pit until the game time reaches 5 minutes, in which the rocks destroy themselves allowing entry to the Roshan pit. •Meepo -Replaced Divided We Stand with Rock Obstruction. Meepo channels on a targeted area and begins to form a cluster of permenant rocks to obstruct pathways. The more skills into Rock Obstruction will increase the unit collision size as well as health and armor. Meepo is able to build an indefinite number of rocks as well. •Phantom Lancer -Illusions created by Phantom Lancer with the exception of the one's created solely from Manta Style can no longer make use of his orb effect.
-Illusions created by phantom lancer become destructible rocks
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Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago.
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On March 12 2013 05:10 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +don't ] On March 12 2013 05:02 Bash wrote:On March 12 2013 04:34 ainz wrote:
na dota competitive dota scene is quite sad. need more sponsors for tournaments. Clearly pumping money into a scene that doesn't deserve it is the way to elevate it, worked wonders for NA SC2! Oh wait. I dont really think that's a fair comparison... By that logic, only south Korea should be having sc2 tournaments and china dota ones. MLG and etc are in america but it isnt like americans are winning most of them.
That's nice but you're missing the entire point of the post. I'm reacting to the ludicrous insinuation that the NA scene is stunted due to lack of money and that giving the three teams that have stuck together longer than a month a major tournament would fix that. I guess the phrase "doesn't deserve it" threw you off track, the reason they "don't deserve it" is because the region doesn't have the talent or the dedication in large enough quantities to field a self-sustaining scene that would create a demand for something like a Dreamhack or one of the various fighting game tournaments the US seems to have no trouble sustaining. That is the only reason your scene is bad. Hell it's the exact same situation for little ol' Finland, there are plenty of players but they all would rather play pubstacks than form teams.
This kind of illusion that competitive gaming comes AFTER tournaments is a SC2 holdover that you should shake off. Competitive gaming and/or esports weren't actually invented by MLG, NASL and IPL investment millions.
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On March 12 2013 04:21 SilverStar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 04:17 Aurrius wrote:I wonder how David Kim and Dustin Browder would balance DotA 2 (because im watching this HotS Party Launch thing) Add destructabel rocks in lane and in front of rosh.
And panda would be split between three heroes instead of one. Earth panda would be renamed to The Rock.
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Why do pubs have to pick so terribly. At this point I feel like it's almost impossible to have a well rounded team setup unless you queue as a party of three or more.
Match id 146859466.
Funky game. I wish someone casted it on Youtube or something, it was terribly stressing to play as Magnus, only stunner/initiator in my team.
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On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago.
In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx?
My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory.
Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...
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On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...
Nyx is pretty stupidly strong right now, I'm not sure how you really pick against him
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On March 12 2013 06:28 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn... Nyx is pretty stupidly strong right now, I'm not sure how you really pick against him
Yep. It doesn't help that he starts with extra innate HP regen (without even costing a skill point). The only thing about nyx is that he doesn't do all that much vs BKBs, but his ult still applies the burst, his carapace still stops an instance of damage and beyond that many of his favourite targets in teamfights (squishy supports) won't have BKB and are often int-based heroes.
The fact that he is an invis hero just makes him that much more taxing on opposing supports who need more dust/wards/a gem and/or have to ride their carries' dick all game to avoid feeding.
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Where is that guy who was asking for buffs for broodmother? Nth picked her vs Kaipi.
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On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...
Non damaging disables help to control his movement (so he doesn't just pop Carapace and walk in the middle of the fight if he is caught in a bad position) while not stunning the guy who disabled him. Early pushes hurt him a bit too since he can't just gib someone and walk away unharmed if you group up. If he was in a support role he will be a bit underleveled and won't be as annoying early on.
Rescaling mana cost of Carapace from constant 40 to 100/80/60/40 might also be a good enough nerf.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
On March 12 2013 06:54 Dattish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 05:23 Shaella wrote:On March 12 2013 05:17 Kuroeeah wrote:On March 12 2013 04:21 SilverStar wrote:On March 12 2013 04:17 Aurrius wrote:I wonder how David Kim and Dustin Browder would balance DotA 2 (because im watching this HotS Party Launch thing) Add destructabel rocks in lane and in front of rosh. •General -Aegis redesigned! Aegis is once again a purchasable item that requires Heart of Terrasque, a Vanguard and a Poor Mans Shield as well as 1800 gold recipe to form into an Aegis of the Immortal. There will only be 1 Aegis Recipe in stock and restocks after every 6 minutes. -Mask of Madness redesigned! Once used, the wearer loses approximately 15% total hp and gain 50% extra attack speed as well as a 30% movement speed increase for 10 seconds. No cooldown and the wearer can not kill himself under activating it. -Roshan instead of dropping Aegis or Cheese on death becomes a controllable unit that is shared across the team that has defeated him as well as immediately replenishing his total health. Roshan will respawn at his pit after 10 minutes upon his death as well as maintaining the distributive bounty and experience the team gains from killing him. There are also indestructible rocks that prevents the player from accessing the pit until the game time reaches 5 minutes, in which the rocks destroy themselves allowing entry to the Roshan pit. •Meepo -Replaced Divided We Stand with Rock Obstruction. Meepo channels on a targeted area and begins to form a cluster of permenant rocks to obstruct pathways. The more skills into Rock Obstruction will increase the unit collision size as well as health and armor. Meepo is able to build an indefinite number of rocks as well. •Phantom Lancer -Illusions created by Phantom Lancer with the exception of the one's created solely from Manta Style can no longer make use of his orb effect. -Illusions created by phantom lancer become destructible rocks Bunker build time increased by 2 seconds.
Bunker unchanged*
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On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...
I pick drow.
They pick bullshit, they get bullshit.
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Hey everyone! I recently got a dota2 invite but it turns out it's a spectator client only, meaning I can't play! :-( is there anyone that'd be willing to give me some advice as to how to get to play?
Thanks in advance!
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On March 12 2013 06:59 JazzNL wrote:
Hey everyone! I recently got a dota2 invite but it turns out it's a spectator client only, meaning I can't play! :-( is there anyone that'd be willing to give me some advice as to how to get to play?
Thanks in advance!
you probably havnt activated the invite from your steam inventory. everyone has access to the spectator client, it should turn into the full client when you activate the invite. are you sure you went into your accounts inventory and used it?
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
When you get the Dota 2 invite you have to actually accept it into your steam account and then activate it within your steam inventory.
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On March 12 2013 06:57 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn... I pick drow. They pick bullshit, they get bullshit.
nyx can 1v1 drow all game long?
I pick nyx to counter drow, rather than the other way around
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On March 12 2013 07:09 Laurens wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 06:57 RageBot wrote:On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn... I pick drow. They pick bullshit, they get bullshit. nyx can 1v1 drow all game long? I pick nyx to counter drow, rather than the other way around
Same, drow is like.. terrible against nyx?
I think lifestealer is good, but otherwise... it's really hard to deal with a decent nyx in pubs.
I guess you could do it with a good 5 man dota team, but it's unlikely to happen in pubs.
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On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn...
Bat is the best I can think of right now. Lion is nice too. Naix/Jug/BKB carries.
Of course you will still have a tough time because of how stupid the hero is currently, but at least he will get nerfed soon. Not sure why it has not happened yet though.
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On March 12 2013 06:28 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 06:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 12 2013 05:25 toemn wrote:
Where is the Nyx nerf already? I dont want to play AR all the time..
This hero makes no sense and should be nerfed long ago. In the hopes of starting legitimate discussion, What heroes do you guys pick AGAINST nyx? My initial instinct is lifestealer (not that much mana to burn, rage laughs off spiked carapace, enough HP to survive the burst dmg in general...) but thats only 1 hero and even then I'm not sure that its a crushing victory. Basically every other hero in the game is pretty horrendously vulnerable to spiked carapace and or mana burn... Nyx is pretty stupidly strong right now, I'm not sure how you really pick against him
There aren't any direct hero counters (panda or bm, maybe). It's more of a playstyle counter. If nyx starts rolling and ganking, then its buddysystem into 5 man doto asap.
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