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On February 12 2013 02:38 Salokin wrote:Howdy, folks! I've been lurking for a couple of years in TL, initially around the SC2 forums and in these parts for the last year. I finally decided to contribute a little and I've prepared a hero tier list, as I haven't seen one written in several months. I'd love to hear your feedback and why Treant Protector should get a tier of his own - cheers! Competitive Hero Tier List - February 2013
Just my opinion, but Beastmaster should be T2, Bane should be T2, Sven should be T3, PL should be T2 I think, not sure about Undying (back and forth with him), Lina should be T3, not 100% sure but maybe BH should be T3, Chen should be T3, Enigma should be T3, Clinkz is iffy on T2, Puck MAYBE should be T2 (tough to say), TA should be t3.
Just IMO though, but nice list. These things are always fun.
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Looks like it's a Euro tier list. Wisp isn't that high in China and BM isn't that high in Europe.
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On February 12 2013 02:40 PassiveAce wrote:whoa! really cool write up man! Thanks for sharing it  If I may ask, what was your specific reasoning for putting pl at the top? I feel like he is a rising star but not necessarily a top pic/ban, what do you think?
I think there are several strong (and obvious) reasons that we will keep seeing more of PL.
- 4.2 agility growth is extremely helpful not only for his farming capabilty but how early he can participate in teamfights.
- Great synergy with Keeper of the Light, who is a top ban/pick at the moment.
- Excellent split pushing and multiple location quick farming, right behind AM.
- He can be the trilane carry or the safe lane solo of a team with an offensive trilane.
As more teams learn to dismantle the very early aggressive style that we usually see these days, PL will be more appreciated as he can be extremely strong with just two items (Diffusal/Heart).
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Thank you for your replies. I'm sure there are many heroes whose relative strength is probably between the tiers but I had to pick some to go up and some to be "relegated". It's not set in stone anyway and it's a productive discussion, imho.
edit: Guilty as charged for Western bias.
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On February 12 2013 03:02 Numy wrote:
Looks like it's a Euro tier list. Wisp isn't that high in China and BM isn't that high in Europe.
I just think its a bit of a crime to not even have beastmaster on that list. He's picked a decent amount in Europe.
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well after my alt key went down, my escape key and then number 1 stopped working too :D
got a new keyboard, fixed. it would be nice to be able to rebind alt ping tho.
question: is there a way to add or invite someone as a friend whilst ingame (not having to go thru steam)?
also, i play 1-4 games in UK evening time with 1 friend, thats about 7-8pm GMT
if anyone wants to join us (skype or no) it might be cool...so we get better pub games
i play support/warlock/lion atm and my friend plays carry/tiny/lancer
pm me your skype i guess
its on a very casual basis, sometimes we dont talk at all since i cant have volume on after like 10pm
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On February 12 2013 03:18 FFGenerations wrote:
question: is there a way to add or invite someone as a friend whilst ingame (not having to go thru steam)?
Not really no but if you use Shift + Tab In-game you can access steam pretty easily to add the friend. Open your friends, and at the bottom press add friend. I think its pretty simple from there.
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On February 12 2013 03:02 Numy wrote:
Looks like it's a Euro tier list. Wisp isn't that high in China and BM isn't that high in Europe.
Pretty much.
I will laugh if LGD.Int and/or IG bring something new to G-League, and the whole tier list gets turned on its head as Western teams rush to copy them.
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On February 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:18 FFGenerations wrote:
question: is there a way to add or invite someone as a friend whilst ingame (not having to go thru steam)?
Not really no but if you use Shift + Tab In-game you can access steam pretty easily to add the friend. Open your friends, and at the bottom press add friend. I think its pretty simple from there.
You should be able to click on their name and add them as friend from inside the client. Chat channel would be the best place to do this unless you have a mutual friend who can invite them.
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On February 12 2013 03:29 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:02 Numy wrote:
Looks like it's a Euro tier list. Wisp isn't that high in China and BM isn't that high in Europe. Pretty much. I will laugh if LGD.Int and/or IG bring something new to G-League, and the whole tier list gets turned on its head as Western teams rush to copy them.
Hot_Bid's contribution to the BTS Kickstarter video was so true...
"What does Beyond the Summit mean to you?"
Hot_Bid: "BTS means a time machine where I can see all the strategies EU teams will be using in 3 weeks"
(Obviously I paraphrased it slightly since I'm quoting from memory).
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It's certainly a very western-oriented list, and there seems to be a lack of understanding of why a few heroes are good, but its a decent jump off point for discussion.
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ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future.
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On February 12 2013 04:00 Talron wrote:
ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future.
This is blasphemy! Its supposed to go the other way around!
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On February 12 2013 04:01 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 04:00 Talron wrote:
ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future. This is blasphemy! Its supposed to go the other way around!
The West can get lucky every now and then...
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Does somebody know on which day will Silencer be enabled on tournament version ?
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
This Thursday/Friday iirc.
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On February 12 2013 04:01 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 04:00 Talron wrote:
ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future. This is blasphemy! Its supposed to go the other way around!
Doesn't necessarily mean we will see the Chinese utilize Gyro in the same fashion as Western teams. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've seen in the past Chinese teams take heroes and put them in innovative roles/positions.
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On February 12 2013 01:31 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 01:26 konadora wrote:On February 12 2013 01:21 Daray wrote:On February 12 2013 01:15 Asha` wrote:
please tell me someone else was watching the match notail just played rofl Yep, that arrow on the PA who tried to go backdoor the ancient was one of the funniest dota moments i've ever seen D: i missed it vod finally extended lol http://www.twitch.tv/fnaticn0tail/b/366318079Jump to about 2 hours 19 and it gets pretty silly after that =)
what the fuck looooooooooool
this PA so hardcore throws
DEM ARROWS
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On February 12 2013 04:38 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 04:01 Comeh wrote:On February 12 2013 04:00 Talron wrote:
ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future. This is blasphemy! Its supposed to go the other way around! Doesn't necessarily mean we will see the Chinese utilize Gyro in the same fashion as Western teams. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've seen in the past Chinese teams take heroes and put them in innovative roles/positions.
People in the west already play Gyro as any position though. No Tidehunter for example runs it as a 4/5 support quite often.
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On February 12 2013 04:38 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 04:01 Comeh wrote:On February 12 2013 04:00 Talron wrote:
ChuaN mentioned on his stream, that iG will be eventually playing Gyo in the near future. This is blasphemy! Its supposed to go the other way around! Doesn't necessarily mean we will see the Chinese utilize Gyro in the same fashion as Western teams. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've seen in the past Chinese teams take heroes and put them in innovative roles/positions.
We've already seen gyro in the west as a 4 slot support, a hard carry, and a solo mid role. Only way we haven't seen him is as an offlane hero, which I'm kind of doubting China will try.
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Why is AM so damn low, when someone good picks him in china it's gg no re.
G-league was a good showcase of this, AM barely lost any game and he got picked quite regularly.
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EPT
