On February 10 2013 10:20 Sid(TB) wrote: well playing drow and troll warlord they dont gank much or put pressure do they? like a QoP, and ya im looking for a safe / good match ups mid, is QoP just always fine?
A good laser rocket tinker will make you hate life. I'm sure there are some other matchups that are annoying to play, but nothing is impossible.
On February 10 2013 10:20 Sid(TB) wrote: well playing drow and troll warlord they dont gank much or put pressure do they? like a QoP, and ya im looking for a safe / good match ups mid, is QoP just always fine?
A good laser rocket tinker will make you hate life. I'm sure there are some other matchups that are annoying to play, but nothing is impossible.
laser rocket tinker cant do anything against scream push and thus the qop is free to pick every rune while ganging other lanes very easily
tinker just carries tp and tps to the lane to assist ideally your teammates wouldnt be too far out and you can reverse kill cuz you called missing on the qop as well as having knowledge of what rune shes ganking with with good rune vision
Personally, I still believe Bloodseeker is one of the best heroes to learn mid with. He makes everything you have to do easy (easy lasthitting, decent in many matchups, easy ganks in low-mid level play, decent lategame with items), but punishes you for not doing any of these things WELL (useless if you lose lane, useless if you don't gank effectively, useless if you don't ensure that you stay farmed the whole game).
When you lose as Bloodseeker, it's generally very clear what you didn't do well enough, as it's very easy to pinpoint where you lost control of the game, hence why I think he's such a good hero to learn with.
On February 10 2013 10:20 Sid(TB) wrote: well playing drow and troll warlord they dont gank much or put pressure do they? like a QoP, and ya im looking for a safe / good match ups mid, is QoP just always fine?
QoP is a decent hero in the majority of matchups if you play her well. The vast majority of her matchups are quite skill-dependent and unforgiving to errors, but there aren't that many lanes that she flat-out loses.
That said, she's a very difficult hero to play well. I wouldn't recommend her as a hero to play if you're just trying to learn how to play mid.
every since tera went free to play i dont think rootkoreya has played any dota since and hes still featured under dota section, thats usually ok tho right
On February 10 2013 11:34 TheYango wrote: Personally, I still believe Bloodseeker is one of the best heroes to learn mid with. He makes everything you have to do easy (easy lasthitting, decent in many matchups, easy ganks in low-mid level play, decent lategame with items), but punishes you for not doing any of these things WELL (useless if you lose lane, useless if you don't gank effectively, useless if you don't ensure that you stay farmed the whole game).
When you lose as Bloodseeker, it's generally very clear what you didn't do well enough, as it's very easy to pinpoint where you lost control of the game, hence why I think he's such a good hero to learn with.
On February 10 2013 10:20 Sid(TB) wrote: well playing drow and troll warlord they dont gank much or put pressure do they? like a QoP, and ya im looking for a safe / good match ups mid, is QoP just always fine?
QoP is a decent hero in the majority of matchups if you play her well. The vast majority of her matchups are quite skill-dependent and unforgiving to errors, but there aren't that many lanes that she flat-out loses.
That said, she's a very difficult hero to play well. I wouldn't recommend her as a hero to play if you're just trying to learn how to play mid.
any other suggestion besides QoP for similar mid hero?
If you really want to work on your fundamentals and don't care about losing a few games, I'd recommend SF. He's the epitome of 1v1 mid mechanics, and you get punished immensely for your mistakes, so you will quickly learn not to make them. Similar to bloodseeker mentioned above. Sub-optimal mid that allows you to learn more rapidly.
Puck is a nice hero to play, can do a lot of cute shit and feel like a pimp when you dodge something big with phase shift. You have good teamfight and is nice to play. Also good if you solo queue since he can initiate and isn't easy to gank, making you less dependant on map vision.
Then you have heroes like Templar Assassin and Storm Spirit, that can easily snowball and kill everyone left and right. TA is pretty safe pick with refraction and meld while SS is a bit more vulnerable until he hits 6, then he shouldn't die until he's out of mana.
On February 10 2013 12:01 FinestHour wrote: every since tera went free to play i dont think rootkoreya has played any dota since and hes still featured under dota section, thats usually ok tho right
hyhy's stream was taken down once because it was listed under SC2 and he was playing Dota, so...
I've done 5 games today where I got crushed not surprising. However, it is like manner to continue to kill players while they are in their spawn waiting to lose? I mean I lost game like 65 - 13 it was horrible
On February 10 2013 14:29 aintz wrote: 1v1 mid sf best way to improve mechanics. once you master sf every other heroe seems nice and easy.
rootkoreya is a terrible streamer anyways and not many watches such a bad stream. if i 1v1 him mid im pretty confident that i would win.
you have an unhealthy obsession with 1v1 mid
1v1 mid is honestly a very good/fast way to get good at the game provided both players have around the same ping. if i 1v1ed you mid it would be unfair because one of us would have 300+ ping.
On February 10 2013 14:21 Pucca wrote: I've done 5 games today where I got crushed not surprising. However, it is like manner to continue to kill players while they are in their spawn waiting to lose? I mean I lost game like 65 - 13 it was horrible
It happens a lot (90% of games or so), but I consider it bad form unless you have at least 2 lanes of rax so the creeps will end the game in 2 min anyway. I wouldn't really stress out about it tbh.
That said, you have 3 options when it happens. The first is to just go with it. The fountain does a lot of damage and if you stun someone inside it you can get some kills, it's not like it matters if they actually wipe you since the game is over anyway. If you go this route you can sell all your items to buy a force staff to push them in to get them killed.
The second option is to just alt-tab and wait till the game is over. It shouldn't be more than 2 min or so, so you can get a drink or read forums or something.
The third is to just hide somewhere on the map. Buy a TP and smoke, tp outside your base and smoke up right away and just hide in the trees. This is the best option if they are being stupid and camping before they get a few lanes of rax down. That said I find it very rare for people to camp you unless there are multiple raxes down.
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