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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Fucking dota. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:18 FuzzyJAM wrote: My point is that it's stupid. Dire is top, not Radiant. Tradition isn't a good reason to keep stupid things. No it isn't stupid, it isn't related to the map, it's related to the way people used to be positioned in the lobby. And it shall stay like this, they also should reverse the drafting screen to be consistent with it! | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Maybe I'm just crazy though. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:21 Comeh wrote: I'm starting to convince myself that kotl might be first round pick / ban material...or at least just for me. The impact this guy has in lane is just game defining, and can ruin a carries farm / give him more then enough room even against a trilane. And with the shenanigans going on with PL lately (especially considering QB), I just feel like it would be justified. Maybe I'm just crazy though. I agree to some extent. Chakra to most carries/semi-carries are invaluable early-mid game, so that's already a big impact right there. And his counter-push capability, recall free-farming carries for team fights and getting A LOT of farm (either from counter pushing or jungle stacks) as support is great so constant warding is easy and at the same time get some items to get beefed up. I really like KotL because it isn't hard to find and get farm to make supporting easier. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:18 FuzzyJAM wrote: My point is that it's stupid. Dire is top, not Radiant. Tradition isn't a good reason to keep stupid things. Radiant heroes are ontop during selection. Radiant is ontop in the scoreboard(All of them). Etc. It's just how it is, it's not tradition. It's how valve has actively decided to make it look and work. And it just makes sense. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:28 Unleashing wrote: Radiant heroes are ontop during selection. Radiant is ontop in the scoreboard(All of them). Etc. It's just how it is, it's not tradition. It's how valve has actively decided to make it look and work. And it just makes sense. To be fair, the first version of the current screen for hero selection had Dire on top IIRC, and some people found it confusing/strange, so it was changed to the way it is now. It's just what people are used to it, and there isn't anything wrong with that. It doesn't have to have a big meaningful justification. It would make sense either way but there just is no (good) reason to change something that has been working well for ages. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:21 Comeh wrote: I'm starting to convince myself that kotl might be first round pick / ban material...or at least just for me. The impact this guy has in lane is just game defining, and can ruin a carries farm / give him more then enough room even against a trilane. And with the shenanigans going on with PL lately (especially considering QB), I just feel like it would be justified. Maybe I'm just crazy though. KotL is pretty damn annoying. You have to be so careful picking around him, he just crushes push lineups so hard. Also, Kotl+Wisp+tiny/CK/sven is fucking annoying. No matter where you are pushing, you will be met with huge resistance, always. Would have helped if I was a competent magnus player too. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:27 trinxified wrote: I agree to some extent. Chakra to most carries/semi-carries are invaluable early-mid game, so that's already a big impact right there. And his counter-push capability, recall free-farming carries for team fights and getting A LOT of farm (either from counter pushing or jungle stacks) as support is great so constant warding is easy and at the same time get some items to get beefed up. I really like KotL because it isn't hard to find and get farm to make supporting easier. Yeah - that's one of my favorite things about picking KotL - I can depend on him to get an easy mek. If picking him discourages the other team from going offensive trilane and letting my carry free farm, I can have one support get farm from pull, and I can have kotl stack a hard camp and farm with illuminate. I just can guarantee an early mek when I pick kotl and usually comfortable lanes.. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Nick3
513 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:12 Erasme wrote: mana leak is imba You also played against ezalor just now?^^ | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:12 Erasme wrote: mana leak is imba Too bad it didn't stop tube's storm | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
i was gonna say 'ask tube'. that 15min linken /_\ | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
KotL is one of the best heroes to play as support in pubs because you can easily get the farm for both items & wards :3 | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:43 Andr3 wrote: Pick Nyx and laugh then. KotL is one of the best heroes to play as support in pubs because you can easily get the farm for both items & wards :3 Nyx can't always be in the same lane as him. heh Also an easy way to flame noobs who don't buy wards/support items with KotL. They can't use the excuse of getting no farm. You don't even have to steal lane creep farm, you can get it from jungle stacks. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:51 trinxified wrote: Also an easy way to flame noobs who don't buy wards/support items with KotL. They can't use the excuse of getting no farm. You don't even have to steal lane creep farm, you can get it from jungle stacks. But they will steal lane farm. Lots and lots of lane farm. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:43 Andr3 wrote: Pick Nyx and laugh then. KotL is one of the best heroes to play as support in pubs because you can easily get the farm for both items & wards :3 Nynyxnyxnyxnyx. There is something so satisfying when you hear a kotl loading his blast, and preparing your carapace. It's true that otherwise kotl is quite imba in pubs, I played a random phantom lancer with a kotl support in lane that fed me mana, it just felt so bad for the guy laning against me. | ||
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Bumblebee
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