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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
January 09 2013 12:14 GMT
#36561
Youtube doesn't really have the employs to care about absolute unimportant channels.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 09 2013 12:15 GMT
#36562
Yeah, but if a big name reports a channel for copyright infringement, they take it down without even checking
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:30:55
January 09 2013 12:30 GMT
#36563
It's not about what they can or cannot afford to do, I just find it strange that the standart procedure for random complaints about a channel is to close it down, instead of issuing a warning. They do send out warnings on other cases as far as I know, so there is a reason why they sometimes choose not to do it. I also have not heard of many other cases where bans are overtuned and the content is restored, from what people say it's pretty rare. Overall it didn't seem like just another unimportant channel being closed down, and that was what I thought was strange.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#36564
It was obviously Tencent suing them to destroy dota2!
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
January 09 2013 13:08 GMT
#36565
Does anybody else find queuing at non-popular times awful? I always seem to be getting near max search range games.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 09 2013 13:09 GMT
#36566
On January 09 2013 21:34 Qbek wrote:
It was obviously Tencent suing them to destroy dota2!


I laughed. Then i went hmmmmm
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 09 2013 13:11 GMT
#36567
On January 09 2013 22:08 Cool Cat wrote:
Does anybody else find queuing at non-popular times awful? I always seem to be getting near max search range games.

Well, that's kinda how non-popular times work? Less people play so the games are worse, unless it's 3 AM, only try hard at this time!
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 09 2013 13:24 GMT
#36568
3 AM best time
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 09 2013 13:58 GMT
#36569
Out of interest...is there any kind of drafting guide around anywhere? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.

Reason I ask is I'm tempted to queue CM more, but I'm sort of worried of ending up as Captain. I queued it once a while back and it was a hell of a lot of fun; decent teamwork and stuff. Ended up on a hero I'd never played until that point and thought the draft was pretty weird but it synergised well in the end and we won. But personally I'm not entirely confident in my own drafting ability (having never done it before).
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
January 09 2013 14:09 GMT
#36570
On January 09 2013 22:58 Lightspeaker wrote:
Out of interest...is there any kind of drafting guide around anywhere? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.

Reason I ask is I'm tempted to queue CM more, but I'm sort of worried of ending up as Captain. I queued it once a while back and it was a hell of a lot of fun; decent teamwork and stuff. Ended up on a hero I'd never played until that point and thought the draft was pretty weird but it synergised well in the end and we won. But personally I'm not entirely confident in my own drafting ability (having never done it before).


Not really answering your question, at all, but I'm really glad how self aware you are and your willingness to learn. The worst thing ever is having a group of 4 (which I often do) and then the random 5th is captain, knows nothing about it, and takes directions poorly. We often enjoy having a random pub fifth in CM, most people who queue CM have some wits about them, but they need to change the system so that the largest group has the captain.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 14:35:27
January 09 2013 14:33 GMT
#36571
On January 09 2013 22:58 Lightspeaker wrote:
Out of interest...is there any kind of drafting guide around anywhere? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.

Reason I ask is I'm tempted to queue CM more, but I'm sort of worried of ending up as Captain. I queued it once a while back and it was a hell of a lot of fun; decent teamwork and stuff. Ended up on a hero I'd never played until that point and thought the draft was pretty weird but it synergised well in the end and we won. But personally I'm not entirely confident in my own drafting ability (having never done it before).

In related to your question, there's a pretty good blog about drafting here; http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/DotA/2064/DotA-2-Understanding-Captains-Mode-Draft-in-Competitive-Games/

To get good at drafting I guess the best way is perhaps just to practice, not really come up with any pocket strategies but just try to always get a solid line up if possible which is based around the strategy you would like to follow. There doesn't really need to be that much synergy in a line up, as long as you've at least got an idea how to lane your heroes because the worst thing that a captain can really do is (which often actually happens in pubs I might add) is that there is quite the synergy in teamfights and so on but there's no possible way to actually win in the laning stage. If you can't win the laning stage on any front it doesn't really matter if you have really good teamfight synergy because then it's just really hit or miss and often the latter.

Not really related directly to your problem here but what you could do after you've learnt proper compositions and how to draft properly as well is to use this site which could come in handy if you really want to get into it; http://dota2draft.the-cluster.org/
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 15:14:07
January 09 2013 15:13 GMT
#36572
On January 09 2013 22:58 Lightspeaker wrote:
Out of interest...is there any kind of drafting guide around anywhere? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything.

Reason I ask is I'm tempted to queue CM more, but I'm sort of worried of ending up as Captain. I queued it once a while back and it was a hell of a lot of fun; decent teamwork and stuff. Ended up on a hero I'd never played until that point and thought the draft was pretty weird but it synergised well in the end and we won. But personally I'm not entirely confident in my own drafting ability (having never done it before).

Honestly, the best drafting guide is to watch progames (kinda) and experience. You really don't get better at it until you start doing it yourself, and analyzing mistakes / bad drafts.

Edit: its totally better to queue CM with friends (obviously).
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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
January 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#36573
In my experience, people who queue CM tend to be worse than those in AP.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#36574
On January 09 2013 20:44 Kipsate wrote:
Bait Viper/OD over mines

''hey its safe here''

Non aerial hero walks over mines

pwned.

i don't think they are considered aerial units anymore, are they? only flying batrider, right? in dota 2, i mean
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 09 2013 16:18 GMT
#36575
flying batrider is still hit by frostbite and stuff like that. So it's aerial but not really i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 09 2013 16:18 GMT
#36576
woah live stream section makeover
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 09 2013 16:19 GMT
#36577
On January 09 2013 17:55 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 17:47 Scaramanga wrote:
Are there any guides out there on diminishing returns which have figures of how ineffective stacking an item is? I'm curious about double vanguard (I build it on axe when I'm feeling bored) and wouldn't mind to see how things stack


It's all simple math. 70% block+70% block=91% block chance. .7+.7*.3=.91

Ahk I thought chance was smaller than the intended chance for the second item
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#36578
On January 09 2013 21:30 SKC wrote:
It's not about what they can or cannot afford to do, I just find it strange that the standart procedure for random complaints about a channel is to close it down, instead of issuing a warning.

Youtube just protecting themselves.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 09 2013 18:38 GMT
#36579
On January 09 2013 21:30 SKC wrote:
It's not about what they can or cannot afford to do, I just find it strange that the standart procedure for random complaints about a channel is to close it down, instead of issuing a warning. They do send out warnings on other cases as far as I know, so there is a reason why they sometimes choose not to do it. I also have not heard of many other cases where bans are overtuned and the content is restored, from what people say it's pretty rare. Overall it didn't seem like just another unimportant channel being closed down, and that was what I thought was strange.


Usually YT warns you 3 times before shutting down your chanel, Joindota didn't listen the first 2 and they got punished by the third.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 18:42:03
January 09 2013 18:40 GMT
#36580
On January 10 2013 03:38 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 SKC wrote:
It's not about what they can or cannot afford to do, I just find it strange that the standart procedure for random complaints about a channel is to close it down, instead of issuing a warning. They do send out warnings on other cases as far as I know, so there is a reason why they sometimes choose not to do it. I also have not heard of many other cases where bans are overtuned and the content is restored, from what people say it's pretty rare. Overall it didn't seem like just another unimportant channel being closed down, and that was what I thought was strange.


Usually YT warns you 3 times before shutting down your chanel, Joindota didn't listen the first 2 and they got punished by the third.


They said they were never warned about it. That's why I said it was strange. That and the fact it was restored. Ussually if you keep doing whatever they don't want you to do and get the third strike, it's gone for good.
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