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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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Gosi
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Firebolt145
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Porkz
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 21 2012 23:26 Porkz wrote: U lost.. thats about as bad as u can do No, if you lose and played horribly and failed at everything, you did horribly. If you lose and played well and did as much as you could for your team, you did well. Losing or winning doesn't say anything about how well a person did in a game. A person can do horribly and be carried by their teammates as well, doesn't mean they did anything good. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Is it just that new keys are the frostivus keys or what? | ||
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Wyk
314 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:00 Asha` wrote: Can someone fill me in on what people mean when they talk about new keys and old keys? Is it just that new keys are the frostivus keys or what? Exactly so, new (or <insert specific name>) keys are event oriented keys, while treasure keys/normal keys or just plain "keys" are the main currency between the events. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:03 Wyk wrote: Exactly so, new (or <insert specific name>) keys are event oriented keys, while treasure keys/normal keys or just plain "keys" are the main currency between the events. thanks wyk, not really done much trading but think I've got a couple of things I could trade for keys, so just wanted to be sure to know what I was actually trying to trade for =) | ||
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AkalineMess
249 Posts
https://dotabuff.com/matches/82765284 Download this replay and watch Rubick in the first 8 minutes. | ||
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Firebolt145
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DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:07 Firebolt145 wrote: Did he do the jungling trick with lifting the neutral creeps over the clift? I had a guy do that in one of my games, but a couple of "small mistakes" and it was not so helpful. He spent the first 12 minutes of the game stacking neutrals on the cliff. He was lvl 2 at 15 minutes. The whole game I'm yelling at him to help in lane for a very obvious reason, but no, he wanted to do the stack. Well, after 15 minutes, when he realizes OUR WHOLE TEAM IS MELEE and NO ONE on our team can kill the stack. Then the enemy Batrider sees the stack, hits firefly and jumps a good 3-4 levels. GG. Sigh. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:27 DR.Ham wrote: I had a guy do that in one of my games, but a couple of "small mistakes" and it was not so helpful. He spent the first 12 minutes of the game stacking neutrals on the cliff. He was lvl 2 at 15 minutes. The whole game I'm yelling at him to help in lane for a very obvious reason, but no, he wanted to do the stack. Well, after 15 minutes, when he realizes OUR WHOLE TEAM IS MELEE and NO ONE on our team can kill the stack. Then the enemy Batrider sees the stack, hits firefly and jumps a good 3-4 levels. GG. Sigh. Stack? I think he means the pulling trick to be able to jungle as rubick, no stacks involved. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 21 2012 20:05 Firebolt145 wrote: Yep. I got pretty rolled ~ edit: I think when I noticed it was dendi after getting to the lane, on SF (which I know to be one of his best heroes), I just seized up and couldn't last hit at all. His first kill on me was pretty sexy though, I don't think too many SF's in the world would've made that kill. Or maybe I'm just saying that to make myself feel better ^_^ Well to be fair, without ganks, SF has a huge advantage against invoker mid. While SF is one of the easiest heroes to gank, you're still playing in a pub. It's okay, i've been rolled by Puppey mid as invoker - I went through the same thing  | ||
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DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:34 SKC wrote: Stack? I think he means the pulling trick to be able to jungle as rubick, no stacks involved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOMPWeXLZYI No, what our guy did was use levitate to pile up the neutrals onto the small cliff there where wards would normally go on the radiant side. So, he would lift them all on the cliff, then wait for next group to spawn, lift them up, then rinse and repeat. Not very helpful if you can't reach them though... | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:06 AkalineMess wrote: For try hard support only: https://dotabuff.com/matches/82765284 Download this replay and watch Rubick in the first 8 minutes. More like trying his best to not support his team. That cs and choice of items. Didn't even watch it because i am sure he did nothing during the laning phase to help his carry. Plus if he wasnt doing some tricky neutrals farming then he would be stealing cs left and right. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:06 AkalineMess wrote: For try hard support only: https://dotabuff.com/matches/82765284 Download this replay and watch Rubick in the first 8 minutes. The technique is known already. In this example he left a spiritbreaker safelane against lich and kotl, in which sb got destroyed. His gold gain is the second worst in the game for at least the first 12 minutes, but taking into account that he has been doing nothing else than jungle, it's downright awful. Guys, can we maybe sticky http://www.youtube.com/user/lockifieddota or something? I get really tired of some "next level jungling!" every time it happens. Most of these things are absolute gimmicks and he has an entire channel full of only those. I am appalled that the regulars in this thread can be surprised by any of those jungling tricks. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The only good part about this is that it's easier because you don't have to manage pull timings for 3 camps (you just pull the hard camp creep up once, and then follow the creep wave around). If you can actually double/triple pull properly I'm pretty sure it's just better. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On December 22 2012 00:47 PassiveAce wrote: People like to think of these tricks as "something OP you can do every game" without realizing the consequences of running something like jungle rubick, like, that you have a rubick in your fucking jungle for at least 10 minutes or whatever. And imagine if you were the solo carry vs 2 oppo heroes. 'yo rubick can you help? this is like 0 fun for me on the lane you know.' 'nope trying next level stuff here bye!' Somehow they won the game so that will make the selfish rubick player believes that he is good/helpful etc. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
At least I hope people are as self aware as me, that they notice when they do a really shoddy job and get carried to victory by others. | ||
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