EPTES needs farm to pick up arcanes/blink. After that you should just ward bitch and allow your teammates to farm generally.
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
ES needs farm to pick up arcanes/blink. After that you should just ward bitch and allow your teammates to farm generally. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On December 19 2012 10:03 Bswhunter wrote: Okay so ES. He became my fav hero recently. I haven't been able to play dota 2 in awhile, but im itching to try him again. Couple questions. Should you just go fissure/stats earlygame? In my last few games I ended up getting 1 point in every spell by level 3, but after re-exaiming it, fissure/stats seems like the most stable build. Is it worth skilling enchant totem past level 1? How early should I get it? How important are arcane boots? Can they be replaced with a soul ring? What is the expected timeframe for a blink dagger. In the games I would play, I would try to roam after I got boots and try and participate in every gank/teamfight. This left me with little farm. Should ES farm? What is the most effecient way of farming? And finally, when should I blink in? ES ult feels less powerful then sandkings. I enjoy using fissure, but his ult feels weak in some weird way. (Im sure its not, im just not used to it yet) ES only has 1 build Max fissure/Aftershock then Enchant totem. Items are Arcane boots(for the larger mana pool) into blink dagger into whatever the hell you want, usually shivas for me as i can jump in initiate and do a mass slow. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Haee
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I've never heard of a case where someone was ever banned from DotA so i assume you just get placed in the LPQ instead for a limited amount of time? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
It is also just assumed that being in lpq is basically just as bad as being banned. | ||
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Haee
522 Posts
everytime i queued up with a friend, at least from my perspective I half jokingly said that US players would literally 5 man train dota (this was before the patch that buffed bounty for kills) while EU players were much more independent. i don't know if it's just me but personally I always love it when games that has an international appeal have differing play styles across region. | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
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whatgoat
Canada34 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
On December 19 2012 12:19 akatama wrote: The only case in which I would get Soul Ring on Shaker would be if I randomed him and intended to be really aggressive. Your lane partner can get a fast Urn to offset the health loss (something like 2xGauntlets + recipe, so you only need the mask to complete it). Otherwise, a good bunch of clarities works just fine till you or a lane mate have Arcane Boots. Soul Ring at level 1 doesn't allow you to be aggressive. Being able to get melee hits in on trapped heroes can help. You'd better off with boots with a few Clarities with your extra gold. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
On December 19 2012 11:15 Mithhaike wrote: ES only has 1 build Max fissure/Aftershock then Enchant totem. Items are Arcane boots(for the larger mana pool) into blink dagger into whatever the hell you want, usually shivas for me as i can jump in initiate and do a mass slow. It is reasonably common to leave fissure at level one for a while. | ||
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
Couldn't you go a delayed soulring, and just roam? EDIT: With the stats vs aftershock, you're basicly trading mana & hp for a tiny bit more damage, and some more damage in the midgame. Which might not even matter if you don't rely on enchant totem for its damage. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On December 19 2012 13:24 Bswhunter wrote: Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't soul ring give you more mana quicker then mana boots? Not only that, but it gives you stats that allow you to stay out longer on the map. Couldn't you go a delayed soulring, and just roam? EDIT: With the stats vs aftershock, you're basicly trading mana & hp for a tiny bit more damage, and some more damage in the midgame. Which might not even matter if you don't rely on enchant totem for its damage. arcane boots is not only for yourself but your teammates. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 19 2012 13:24 Bswhunter wrote: Correct me if im wrong, but doesn't soul ring give you more mana quicker then mana boots? Not only that, but it gives you stats that allow you to stay out longer on the map. Couldn't you go a delayed soulring, and just roam? EDIT: With the stats vs aftershock, you're basicly trading mana & hp for a tiny bit more damage, and some more damage in the midgame. Which might not even matter if you don't rely on enchant totem for its damage. You're not valuing how useful Arcanes are to your team, nor are you valuing the +15 MS from Arcanes enough. | ||
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canikizu
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 19 2012 13:51 canikizu wrote: I always prefer aftershock to stats. Aftershock + Enchant totem is like a 300 radius ministun every 6 seconds (larger radius than Axe's call). You never know when you need to ministun somebody. You also need higher ranks of Aftershock for your Echo->Enchant->Fissure combo to link properly. At lower ranks of Aftershock, the stun from Echo isn't long enough to let you finish the Enchant or Fissure animation before they can move (which can interrupt your combo). | ||
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blahz0r
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