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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
December 07 2012 08:38 GMT
#32201
On December 07 2012 17:00 Unleashing wrote:
Lmfao, playing CM pubs wont make you a better player outside of the amount your individual skill goes up, which would also go up in AP. Trying to play seriously with low level teams wont improve your understanding of the game much.

There's a reason players like scandal simply run through AP mode over and over with the same hero to improve his individual skill.


I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

And to all the haters out there, I just captained, drafted and led TO A WIN an all pug CM group against a well coordinated 5 stack.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME <3<3<3
"En taro adun, Executor."
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10940 Posts
December 07 2012 08:40 GMT
#32202
So, you won a CM? Grats i guess?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 08:44:28
December 07 2012 08:41 GMT
#32203
On December 07 2012 17:38 Chriscras wrote:
I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

Bad assumption, i play CM in inhouses with friends and people i know and find it plenty fun, but it's not to get better, it's for fun, because playing pub CM doesn't make you a better player than pub AP does.
You should not make baseless assumptions.

It just makes you look silly.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 07 2012 08:48 GMT
#32204
On December 07 2012 17:38 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:00 Unleashing wrote:
Lmfao, playing CM pubs wont make you a better player outside of the amount your individual skill goes up, which would also go up in AP. Trying to play seriously with low level teams wont improve your understanding of the game much.

There's a reason players like scandal simply run through AP mode over and over with the same hero to improve his individual skill.


I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

And to all the haters out there, I just captained, drafted and led TO A WIN an all pug CM group against a well coordinated 5 stack.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME <3<3<3

Damn bro, put that on your resume
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
December 07 2012 09:00 GMT
#32205
--- Nuked ---
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 07 2012 09:30 GMT
#32206
Meh, no use to play CM unless you're in a stack. Some people are horrible drafters, some people join CM only to spam that they want X hero and the drafter either gives in or the dude that shouldn't be in a CM game in the first play whines his ass off because he didn't get his hero or role. People join CM all the time when they can't handle the "standard" pool of heroes and roles and that is so boring. And it takes fucking forever to get games going too.

Grind that AP and become goSU instead~^*~~
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2012 09:33 GMT
#32207
On December 07 2012 17:38 Chriscras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:00 Unleashing wrote:
Lmfao, playing CM pubs wont make you a better player outside of the amount your individual skill goes up, which would also go up in AP. Trying to play seriously with low level teams wont improve your understanding of the game much.

There's a reason players like scandal simply run through AP mode over and over with the same hero to improve his individual skill.


I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

And to all the haters out there, I just captained, drafted and led TO A WIN an all pug CM group against a well coordinated 5 stack.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME <3<3<3


can you sign my mousepad
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 07 2012 09:54 GMT
#32208
On December 07 2012 18:33 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 17:38 Chriscras wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:00 Unleashing wrote:
Lmfao, playing CM pubs wont make you a better player outside of the amount your individual skill goes up, which would also go up in AP. Trying to play seriously with low level teams wont improve your understanding of the game much.

There's a reason players like scandal simply run through AP mode over and over with the same hero to improve his individual skill.


I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

And to all the haters out there, I just captained, drafted and led TO A WIN an all pug CM group against a well coordinated 5 stack.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME <3<3<3


can you sign my mousepad

Not until you sign mine first
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 07 2012 09:56 GMT
#32209
Guys, guys.
I got an idea.
Guys, listen, guys.
We build shadow blade.
Guys listen, shadow blade on spirit breaker.
NINJA STUNS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 07 2012 09:58 GMT
#32210
The thing is, none of the really good players play -CM stacks. The best players queue AP solo, or sometimes stack AP. So by and large, the -CM player pool is going to be tryhard stacks of players that aren't all that good.

-CM would have more value if any of the best players actually queued -CM, but they don't.
Moderator
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#32211
I couldn't even imagine the rage in CM considering the rage in AP.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
December 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#32212
On December 07 2012 18:58 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, none of the really good players play -CM stacks. The best players queue AP solo, or sometimes stack AP. So by and large, the -CM player pool is going to be tryhard stacks of players that aren't all that good.

-CM would have more value if any of the best players actually queued -CM, but they don't.

Well i can say that is wrong, around 7-9pm on SEA server you verse pretty good stacks of people in the CM queue. Just because they aren't playing in the international doesn't mean stacking CM as 5 is bad practise, it is better than sitting around in lobbys because 1 person can't manage their time.

CM queues will help your team become better, i strongly advise looking for them in the afternoon/nighttime. All get on skype and its usually a good amount of fun. (PS, add people if you want to verse them later for practise).
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 07 2012 10:01 GMT
#32213
On December 07 2012 18:56 Unleashing wrote:
Guys, guys.
I got an idea.
Guys, listen, guys.
We build shadow blade.
Guys listen, shadow blade on spirit breaker.
NINJA STUNS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE.

Can you use it while running ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 07 2012 10:03 GMT
#32214
On December 07 2012 19:01 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:56 Unleashing wrote:
Guys, guys.
I got an idea.
Guys, listen, guys.
We build shadow blade.
Guys listen, shadow blade on spirit breaker.
NINJA STUNS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE.

Can you use it while running ?

Yea, doesn't break the charge.
Same with BKB.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 07 2012 10:04 GMT
#32215
On December 07 2012 19:01 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:58 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, none of the really good players play -CM stacks. The best players queue AP solo, or sometimes stack AP. So by and large, the -CM player pool is going to be tryhard stacks of players that aren't all that good.

-CM would have more value if any of the best players actually queued -CM, but they don't.

Well i can say that is wrong, around 7-9pm on SEA server you verse pretty good stacks of people in the CM queue. Just because they aren't playing in the international doesn't mean stacking CM as 5 is bad practise, it is better than sitting around in lobbys because 1 person can't manage their time.

CM queues will help your team become better, i strongly advise looking for them in the afternoon/nighttime. All get on skype and its usually a good amount of fun. (PS, add people if you want to verse them later for practise).

The guy who started the discussion is queueing -CM solo, though, and, unless I'm misinterpreting his point, arguing that solo -CM helps you improve more than solo AP does.
Moderator
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 10:07:58
December 07 2012 10:05 GMT
#32216
Also, apparently the shadow blade on spirit breaker doesn't break even after you stun them, lmfao i gotta try this.
SB on SB :DD

Invis charge into nether strike.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 07 2012 10:09 GMT
#32217
I'm so gonna do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 10:25:07
December 07 2012 10:13 GMT
#32218
These new sound effects when someone buys back and stuff, they are new aren't they? Can you disable/mute them somehow. Annoying as fuck.

e. also when you get stunned etc, you'll hear the sound.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 07 2012 10:24 GMT
#32219
On December 07 2012 18:54 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 18:33 FinestHour wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:38 Chriscras wrote:
On December 07 2012 17:00 Unleashing wrote:
Lmfao, playing CM pubs wont make you a better player outside of the amount your individual skill goes up, which would also go up in AP. Trying to play seriously with low level teams wont improve your understanding of the game much.

There's a reason players like scandal simply run through AP mode over and over with the same hero to improve his individual skill.


I'm sorry that you fail to appreciate the beauty that is DotA drafting

And to all the haters out there, I just captained, drafted and led TO A WIN an all pug CM group against a well coordinated 5 stack.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS GAME <3<3<3


can you sign my mousepad

Not until you sign mine first


im like 1-10 against merlini stack my name is not yet worthy of your keyboard accessories
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
December 07 2012 10:52 GMT
#32220
On December 07 2012 19:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 19:01 SirMilford wrote:
On December 07 2012 18:58 TheYango wrote:
The thing is, none of the really good players play -CM stacks. The best players queue AP solo, or sometimes stack AP. So by and large, the -CM player pool is going to be tryhard stacks of players that aren't all that good.

-CM would have more value if any of the best players actually queued -CM, but they don't.

Well i can say that is wrong, around 7-9pm on SEA server you verse pretty good stacks of people in the CM queue. Just because they aren't playing in the international doesn't mean stacking CM as 5 is bad practise, it is better than sitting around in lobbys because 1 person can't manage their time.

CM queues will help your team become better, i strongly advise looking for them in the afternoon/nighttime. All get on skype and its usually a good amount of fun. (PS, add people if you want to verse them later for practise).

The guy who started the discussion is queueing -CM solo, though, and, unless I'm misinterpreting his point, arguing that solo -CM helps you improve more than solo AP does.

Nah was refuting your point that CM-stacks are bad players. Or "tryhards" as you called them.

Also i agree, CM solo is really not going to teach you anything compared to just getting 4 others and playing together all the time.
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