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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:22 rwrzr wrote: lol amen when CS 1.5 went to 1.6 steam was awful. Haha I remember that. "Steam friends coming soon" for like 4-5 years or something before it started working. :D | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:45 Noocta wrote: Do Dota really need to surpass League tho ? I'm not even sure we should set this as a goal. I personally don't care if it ever surpasses or comes close, I just want to enjoy doto since i think it's an awesome game. Popularity =/= Quality of a game. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Of course dota will surpass league, eventually the Teams get sick of being bossed around by riot and give up the lol teams and the competitve lol dies. casuals will continue to play as they always have though. they won't get tired of being bossed around if they have money thrown at them and even if the top teams quit there will always be players to fill the void | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:59 PrinceXizor wrote: Of course dota will surpass league, eventually the Teams get sick of being bossed around by riot and give up the lol teams and the competitve lol dies. casuals will continue to play as they always have though. I don't know where you're getting that idea from, but the top teams love riot. Not to mention all the money they get including a salary for the top 8 teams of each region. Dota players seem to be really out of touch with reality and can only see from 1 perspective which happens to be their own. I think most people here should be happy if dota can be equal to league or close to equal. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: I don't know where you're getting that idea from, but the top teams love riot. Not to mention all the money they get including a salary for the top 8 teams of each region. Dota players seem to be really out of touch with reality and can only see from 1 perspective which happens to be their own. I think most people here should be happy if dota can be equal to league or close to equal. the Teams =/= the players. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:19 Itsmedudeman wrote: Most players that I know who have played both league and dota for a long time say it'll be very difficult for dota to surpass league. I don't think most people here realize just how big league is. Sure, China is big, but that's the only place it's winning over League right now, and it's pretty much cemented in NA, Korea, and strong in Europe. I don't know. The way Valve is developing Dota 2 it is pretty obvious they have long term plans for the game, and the same could probably be said about Riot. Both companies will have to play an active role to keep the interest up for their respective game, but here I think Valve has an head start considering there already is a large Dota community which has been self sustained for years. Steam is also a big platform guaranteeing reliable exposure. Adding to this is that we haven't really seen Valve's finished product and what it brings. They have mentioned modding, and depending on the possibilities with the editor we might see a strong modding scene with a heap of tried and tested ideas from the WC3-era ready to be made from the get-go. All this being said I still think it is Riot's market to lose. I have no doubt Dota 2 will be a fantastic game with a strong user base and it has all the potential to become number 1, but it's undeniable how big Lol is right now. At this point it looks unlikely Dota 2 will be bigger, but it is always hard to predict many years in advance, and I wouldn't put it past Riot to fuck something up. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BGiqk.jpg) I made the mistake of rushing Butterfly, which left me with no HP and no way to teamfight out of Chrono, and the Furion bought Orchid, silencing me everytime. We got 1 set of rax, but slowly lost ground, which ended in us losing 2 sets of rax. Furion backdoored the last one, giving them mega creeps, at which point I sold my Battlefury and went for a Divine. It worked. Wisp was one of the best supports, and best Wisps I've ever seen, he made sure we finished the game as I baseraced with his help against mega creeps and Furion. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:39 rob.au wrote: Last I heard the LoL playerbase in China is bigger than the entire dota2 playerbase. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the other way around (if you include dota 1 as well). | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:42 LAN-f34r wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if it was the other way around (if you include dota 1 as well). Dota 2 pretty sure, as their keys were(are?) limited. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
- Fixed some bugs with Pounce movement restriction. - Fixed being able to cast and attack while using Skewer. - Fixed Empower buff remaining after casting Black King Bar. - Fixed Neutral creep chase time being too long. - Added Pseudo Random chances for the following items: Daedalus, Crystalys, Abyssal Blade, Basher, Heaven's Halbred, Maelstrom, Mjollnir, Static Charge, Monkey King Bar, Poor Man's Shield, Sange, Sange and Yasha, Stout Shield, Vanguard. - Fixed various ancient AI exploits. AUDIO - Some voice gain fixes to improve quality. - Updates on sound effects for Visage, Viper, Warlock, Tiny and Earthshaker. MISC - Fixed an issue where players would not be able to reconnect to a server and would get "You must be in a lobby to connect." - Undying's Tombstone now caps at 64 maximum zombies. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Rest of the stuff makes sense, nice to see more PRD! Obviously sad for no new hero though :/ | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:51 Itsmedudeman wrote: ancient AI exploits? What would those be exactly? Probably the stuff with AM taking out trees, taking aggro, then blinking to block them from going back and similar. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On December 06 2012 08:57 Appendix wrote: Did damage block have PRD in dota 1? Yes. List of what was a PRD in Dota 1: Critical Strike (ex. Phantom Assassin’s Coup de Grace, Crystalys) Bash (ex. Faceless Void’s Time Lock. As of its remake, Cranium Basher does not follow this distribution.) Pulverize (ex. Infernal’s Flaming Fists, Tidehunter’s Anchor Smash) Orb of Slow (ex. Maim, Maelstrom) Hardened Skin (ex. Stout Shield, Vanguard) | ||
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