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IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 24 2012 14:29 GMT
#30861
On November 24 2012 21:35 Dr. ROCKZO wrote:
I'm really enjoying taking a leaf out of Day[9]'s book and being relentlessly positive during games, really improves my experiences with other players and helps boost morale. It helps when I am personally playing well, but even when I'm not I just always compliment players (enemy team also) when they do something well, kindly suggest things players could be doing if I think that they need help, and make sure to owe up to any mistakes I make instead of offloading it onto another player.

You guys should try it some time, especially if you care about commends


this isn't just about Dota 2 - being positive overall in life is important, imo

but yeah that definitely makes Dota 2 funner to play
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 24 2012 14:35 GMT
#30862
On November 24 2012 23:29 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 21:35 Dr. ROCKZO wrote:
I'm really enjoying taking a leaf out of Day[9]'s book and being relentlessly positive during games, really improves my experiences with other players and helps boost morale. It helps when I am personally playing well, but even when I'm not I just always compliment players (enemy team also) when they do something well, kindly suggest things players could be doing if I think that they need help, and make sure to owe up to any mistakes I make instead of offloading it onto another player.

You guys should try it some time, especially if you care about commends


this isn't just about Dota 2 - being positive overall in life is important, imo

but yeah that definitely makes Dota 2 funner to play


If people start calling me a noob and telling me to uninstall, I tell them they must be a pleasant person in real life and very handsome to boot.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#30863
On November 24 2012 22:05 Asha` wrote:
This guy clearly spends far too much time experimenting in the jungle heh

Another vid for another hero



I saw that in a Chinese VOD 2 months back. Looks like it's time to invest in some obs ward to make the magnus on the opposite side stay at level 2
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 24 2012 16:18 GMT
#30864
+ Show Spoiler +
They are exactly opposite of how I am in real life in terms of attitude and other things. At all the lans I preferred hanging out with mostly other teams than my own(mouz/col/quantic/etc). I didn't share much outside of DotA with any of them. I went into that team expecting a lot to live up to but there was a huge lack of dedication or motivation. We barely practiced and no one really cared to watch replays or analyze stuff except for Fear and I. Our entire practice for Ti2 was procrastinated for our bootcamp in Denmark but Maelk had a lot of health issues(which were serious) and we didn't practice for more than 2 weeks. Not blaming him since it was entirely not his fault but getting up every morning to see all the teams looking for scrims and getting ready for ti2 while we sat on our asses all day playing pubs or watching youtube videos was downright the most depressing shit. It got even worse when we used Pusher-street to ring in clan wars and literally lost some 6 games in a row to coL and 10 games in a row to Na'vi in scrims. This was literally 2 days before leaving for seattle from denmark btw.
It felt like i took an entire year break from my life for it to come to this. Each day not knowing whether we were going to play with him or not at the actual event. I think if Maelk wasn't healthy enough to go, we probably would not have played and mouz or w/e team would have played over us. I realized then that if i would do it again and if i was going to actually take a semester off of school to play dota, i would want it to be with people who are just as dedicated as me. But it was at my fault for how i acted sometimes in games and after. This game does make u emotional at times and i let it get to me especially with all those depressing events like Maelk's health and not being able to practice at all.
I don't have any quarrel with any of them. It looks just like Demon and I do but we usually talked that way. Just that now we aren't really close anymore. We've always had that kind of friendship where we flamebait each other. It's not like i hold anything against him. When he streams, he has to act in a certain way to stand out just like every other popular streamer. If anything, it's my fault for responding if i care for what he says. He chooses a different route, let it be not as nice but still entertaining for his fans. I still respect Fear and Maelk a lot as a players and people. If anything, I want fear to do well because he has sacrificed more in his life for this game than anyone else i can think of and he has a huge amount of dedication and emotional strength to do it. Even Demon has spent a lot for this game and he deserves some of the success. If he finds the same dedication he had in DotA 1, i wouldn't doubt how well he would do in the future. Its nice to see that he did find some of that in his recent performances. sometimes you just gotta realize how some people are.



Bulba on why he left EG. Finally sheds a lot of light on the situation.
secret - never again
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 18:14:48
November 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#30865
On November 25 2012 00:55 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 22:05 Asha` wrote:
This guy clearly spends far too much time experimenting in the jungle heh

Another vid for another hero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPYWtVp9Iro


I saw that in a Chinese VOD 2 months back. Looks like it's time to invest in some obs ward to make the magnus on the opposite side stay at level 2


Strange how he says this works for all stacks of ancients.. I've only gotten it to work consistently with at least a few golems. When I got 4 stacks of ground dragons in a row, it didn't work at all.
edit: oh and quite often the pull just fails because the ancients block the tree spawns anyway (if there's 2+ spawns of air or ground dragons they fuck everything up)
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.. 4:12 feels early also
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 24 2012 20:17 GMT
#30866
I really dislike the current meta of getting Radiance on PL. I get that it's an incredible farming tool but it's a really late item on a hero that is already useless in team fights until he gets his two/first big items, whereas the dispelling blade (forgot the name :D) let's you gank motherfuckers and jumpstarts your carrying.

Then again I'm just a low-level MMR player enjoying casual Dota :/ maybe I just dislike farming for the sake of farming
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 24 2012 20:26 GMT
#30867
it lets you push two lanes and farm the jungle simultaneously
purge is more fun tho
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 20:37:56
November 24 2012 20:37 GMT
#30868
If you can get a radiance in a reasonable time, there is absolute no reason not to get it. You can easily farm as fast as an AM.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 24 2012 20:51 GMT
#30869
I know - push all the lanes while jungling, get $$$, dominate as a third team made entirely of phantom lancers

but as Dead9 said, Diffusal Blade is funner

I just don't like farming for the sake of farming - even though I play a really good AM, it's boring as fuck to just farmfarmfarm-getBF-farmfarmfarm-mantaheartvlad-F1A into their fountain
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 20:54:36
November 24 2012 20:53 GMT
#30870
There are many ways to play pubs in DotA, you can even go for a mid-game oriented spectre.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 24 2012 21:00 GMT
#30871
It's safer and you rape harder and earlier with drums/diffu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 24 2012 21:08 GMT
#30872
try to search for ZSMJ's PL games. Radi became the trademark item for pl since then. (not saying that it is the best build for pl in current metagame).

Wonder will we see drow+pl with radi in pro games, all lanes perma pushed and your team can farm all day!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
November 24 2012 21:09 GMT
#30873
Why are the Dreamhack games not playing live in client like yesterday? :0
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 24 2012 21:19 GMT
#30874
On November 25 2012 06:08 BurningSera wrote:
try to search for ZSMJ's PL games. Radi became the trademark item for pl since then. (not saying that it is the best build for pl in current metagame).

Wonder will we see drow+pl with radi in pro games, all lanes perma pushed and your team can farm all day!

Radiance on PL was the standard long before ZSMJ's game tbh
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 24 2012 21:19 GMT
#30875
On November 25 2012 06:09 IPA wrote:
Why are the Dreamhack games not playing live in client like yesterday? :0

They are. Just no games on right now.
Moderator
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 24 2012 21:34 GMT
#30876
Radiance pl is awful, it's a relic of a bygone era on a hero that's completely different than it is nowadays. It's only advantage is a slight increase in farming speed that doesn't even kick in until you finish and item after radiance, something like drums diffusal is far better fr both midgame power and absolute late game scaling, since rad becomes dead weight at that point
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 21:44:44
November 24 2012 21:37 GMT
#30877
On November 25 2012 06:00 Erasme wrote:
It's safer and you rape harder and earlier with drums/diffu

I wouldn't call it safer, but you have more control over the game.

Radi PL generally doesn't fit the pace of the game. Though there might be some rare pub teamcomp where it's appropriate, by and large Diffusal is going to be much smoother.

That said, it's not as clear cut as "I don't like Radiance and never buy it". It has its appropriateness for certain games, and as a player you should be looking to recognize when which item choice is appropriate.
Moderator
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 24 2012 21:40 GMT
#30878
On November 25 2012 06:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 06:08 BurningSera wrote:
try to search for ZSMJ's PL games. Radi became the trademark item for pl since then. (not saying that it is the best build for pl in current metagame).

Wonder will we see drow+pl with radi in pro games, all lanes perma pushed and your team can farm all day!

Radiance on PL was the standard long before ZSMJ's game tbh


I am not surprised xD I used to make bfury on him until i saw zsmj rofl.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 24 2012 21:42 GMT
#30879
Radiance pl can be really fun but a 5000k~ item thats only benefit is faster farming can only be useful in games where your team can 4v5 for 25-30 minutes. Since the damage boost doesnt apply to illusions its kind of weak.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 24 2012 21:47 GMT
#30880
Radiance on PL ismore about how effectiev it is at pushing and farming and how crazy good harrass it is, a single spirit lance gets an extra 400 damage on it.
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