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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 21 2012 18:42 GMT
#30621
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 21 2012 19:15 GMT
#30622
Its called the Merlini build. Boots of Travel first on every hero. Every hero.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 21 2012 19:24 GMT
#30623
On November 22 2012 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its called the Merlini build. Boots of Travel first on every hero. Every hero.

i called it the pinoy build... may be its just a SEA thing :-/
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 21 2012 19:32 GMT
#30624
On November 22 2012 04:24 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its called the Merlini build. Boots of Travel first on every hero. Every hero.

i called it the pinoy build... may be its just a SEA thing :-/

pubs love BoTs it means they get to move faster than anyone and teleport whenever, it's almost as if they have a tp scroll on hand.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
November 21 2012 19:43 GMT
#30625
On November 22 2012 04:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 04:24 NB wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its called the Merlini build. Boots of Travel first on every hero. Every hero.

i called it the pinoy build... may be its just a SEA thing :-/

pubs love BoTs it means they get to move faster than anyone and teleport whenever, it's almost as if they have a tp scroll on hand.

It's what people do when you always tell them to carry a TP scroll, they'll just eventually buy BoT's 'cause they don't have to listen to their team's 'advice'.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
November 21 2012 19:51 GMT
#30626
On November 22 2012 03:42 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.


After radiance and midas, fine (even just one of the two). But getting them first doesn't seem efficient at all.
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
November 21 2012 19:51 GMT
#30627
On November 22 2012 03:42 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.

Got to hit that quota. Rent ain't gunna pay itself, son.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 21 2012 20:28 GMT
#30628
On November 22 2012 04:51 Mazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 03:42 rabidch wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.


After radiance and midas, fine (even just one of the two). But getting them first doesn't seem efficient at all.

sure it does, midas increases gpm and with radiance you can clear out lanes and jungle faster with acid
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Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
November 21 2012 20:30 GMT
#30629
On November 22 2012 05:28 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 04:51 Mazer wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:42 rabidch wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.


After radiance and midas, fine (even just one of the two). But getting them first doesn't seem efficient at all.

sure it does, midas increases gpm and with radiance you can clear out lanes and jungle faster with acid


I was referring to going BoTs before midas/radiance...
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 21 2012 21:10 GMT
#30630
On November 22 2012 05:30 Mazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 05:28 rabidch wrote:
On November 22 2012 04:51 Mazer wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:42 rabidch wrote:
On November 22 2012 03:05 Mazer wrote:
Boots of travel first on Alch. Kind of blows my mind. Thankfully the game lasted long enough for him to still get big items to take on a fed Clinkz.

I get Boots of Travel after Midas and Radiance. Then I get Yasha and Lothar's to run across the map and farm everything. It's called the 1000+ GPM build.


After radiance and midas, fine (even just one of the two). But getting them first doesn't seem efficient at all.

sure it does, midas increases gpm and with radiance you can clear out lanes and jungle faster with acid


I was referring to going BoTs before midas/radiance...

when you used the pronoun them, it technically referred to the previous two nouns listed, radiance and midas. so that is where the confusion comes from.
Morufi1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 21:29:08
November 21 2012 21:21 GMT
#30631
Hi,
i have a technical issue: The last few days, when i want to play, sometimes the loading screen is infinite long and i cant get into the game, i am playing together with a friend and he has the exact same problem at exact the same time.

We play for example 2 games and then cant join another, cant host a lobby, cant join as spectator cant do anything, in the most cases it workes the next day, but it is kind of strange, because i read some forums and there were no posts regarding this problem. I think the problem cant lay on my side, because we are getting it at the exact same times.

Has anybody else the same prob or does know how to fix it?^

Edit: I can instantly test if i have the problem: if i can minimize instantly in the loading screen it will never end, and i can get back to the main menu using the key for opening the console.

Edit2: We are in the same network, and the problem can only be there, but i dont understand how it can work some times, and not other times.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#30632
is it a wireless network? check to see if you lose connection during that time. i've only had that problem when i accidentally pressed the wireless button on my laptop why the hell is that even a button.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 21:43:37
November 21 2012 21:43 GMT
#30633
On November 22 2012 06:21 Morufi1 wrote:
Hi,
i have a technical issue: The last few days, when i want to play, sometimes the loading screen is infinite long and i cant get into the game, i am playing together with a friend and he has the exact same problem at exact the same time.

We play for example 2 games and then cant join another, cant host a lobby, cant join as spectator cant do anything, in the most cases it workes the next day, but it is kind of strange, because i read some forums and there were no posts regarding this problem. I think the problem cant lay on my side, because we are getting it at the exact same times.

Has anybody else the same prob or does know how to fix it?^

Edit: I can instantly test if i have the problem: if i can minimize instantly in the loading screen it will never end, and i can get back to the main menu using the key for opening the console.

Edit2: We are in the same network, and the problem can only be there, but i dont understand how it can work some times, and not other times.

go to dev forum, they have more people there that actually know what the fuck is going on behind the game UI.... all we could help you around here is a long the line of have you try turning its off and on again?

http://dev.dota2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23&s=c824e04293ac7f311fb8fdd6e9638fe7
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Morufi1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany49 Posts
November 21 2012 21:55 GMT
#30634
Thanks, i think i have found the problem:
"It's simple. It's the packet flood. Some routers are designed in the hardware to "protect" your computer against a malicious attack (which it has determined to match the arrival flood from/to the Dota servers).

It may be on your router, or even your ISP's equipment. Could be your school's router. Point is, there is nothing you can do about it. It's mostly a bug in the client/server protocol."

We are in a student dormitory and i have send a mail to the network admins, i hope they can fix it.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 21 2012 22:03 GMT
#30635
hope it gets fixed.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 21 2012 22:15 GMT
#30636
On November 22 2012 01:28 Twinmold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:08 ZasZ. wrote:
I don't get the "tryhards!1!" mentality.

Yes, there are unbelievably strong heroes and very good team synergies that either don't exist in Captain's Mode or are banned out with a few key heroes. If you don't want to go up against DS/Drow/Centaur, etc. etc. then don't play All Pick! There are three other modes out there specifically for you, and I play them almost exclusively because there is such variety in heroes.

Complaining about "tryhard" lineups when you queue for All Pick is like playing MTG and complaining about some sick combo you didn't think of when building your Legacy/Vintage deck. It's in the format, deal with it. If you want to be able to pick the hero you want every game, others will be able to do so as well.

It's more similiar to someone bringing a combo deck containing four black lotuses to the kitchen table. Something can be a dick move even though it's technically allowed.

I don't know if you're using some kind of MTG slang, but I don't see how "the kitchen table" serves as an analogy for a global, ranked and automated matchmaking system - wouldn't that be private games? Within the aforementioned system, the idea of condemning actions that are entirely allowed and easily engaged in seems unwarranted, considering there are several easy ways to avoid it.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 21 2012 22:19 GMT
#30637
test client updating: no new hero, aus sever, dreamhack ticket
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Toshihito_TL
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia145 Posts
November 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#30638
are you serious? aus server?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 21 2012 22:22 GMT
#30639
aus server nice! no more laggy aussies mucking up my US WEST.
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
November 21 2012 22:23 GMT
#30640
On November 22 2012 07:15 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 01:28 Twinmold wrote:
On November 22 2012 01:08 ZasZ. wrote:
I don't get the "tryhards!1!" mentality.

Yes, there are unbelievably strong heroes and very good team synergies that either don't exist in Captain's Mode or are banned out with a few key heroes. If you don't want to go up against DS/Drow/Centaur, etc. etc. then don't play All Pick! There are three other modes out there specifically for you, and I play them almost exclusively because there is such variety in heroes.

Complaining about "tryhard" lineups when you queue for All Pick is like playing MTG and complaining about some sick combo you didn't think of when building your Legacy/Vintage deck. It's in the format, deal with it. If you want to be able to pick the hero you want every game, others will be able to do so as well.

It's more similiar to someone bringing a combo deck containing four black lotuses to the kitchen table. Something can be a dick move even though it's technically allowed.

I don't know if you're using some kind of MTG slang, but I don't see how "the kitchen table" serves as an analogy for a global, ranked and automated matchmaking system - wouldn't that be private games? Within the aforementioned system, the idea of condemning actions that are entirely allowed and easily engaged in seems unwarranted, considering there are several easy ways to avoid it.

Black Lotus refers to one of the 9 strongest cards in MTG, you got that correct. It is not allowed to have more than 1 in your deck, and even then only in very special tournaments(Vintage). And the comparison with the sick combo...those usually get nerfed into oblivion, think Morphling(which incidentally is based on a MTG card if I'm not mistaken) nerfed.

On the tryhards: I hate losing against lineups that are obviously built with a strategy behind them, because my team had to pick 4 carries. It's just not fun if you KNOW you're going to lose.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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