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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On November 10 2012 05:26 Sn0_Man wrote: o.O His... fuck I'm not allowed to call it "Q"... ummmm k his "lance" (and of course the illusion it spawns) is stronger than most heroes once you have heart/radi/diffusal. And its on like a 6 second cooldown. If a single spirit lance illusion is stronger than most heroes in the game, the enemy fucked up so hard it's not due to PL that they're losing. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Fuckin hate that spell. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 10 2012 05:53 Unleashing wrote: If a single spirit lance illusion is stronger than most heroes in the game, the enemy fucked up so hard it's not due to PL that they're losing. Yeah at the point where Radi+Heart+Diffusal PL is wrecking people with single Lances, you have to keep in mind that equivalently BFury+Manta+BKB Void would force every fight to start 5v3 (kill 1 person in ult, and 1 person in BKB). 3-item hard carries wreck shit regardless of who they are. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
but post patch something like tranq -> drums -> diffusal -> heart allows you to be very effective midgame while retaining the ability to carry late | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On November 10 2012 06:08 Itsmedudeman wrote: Naga has way more utility than PL and actually doesn't suck for 40 minutes, although yeah, PL can carry in the super late game. ? PL has a VERY scary midgame. 15 min diffusal -> 20-22min heart is not hard to achieve and pretty damn strong. His biggest asset is his ability to farm everywhere at the same time without a farming item. Once his first item (Radiance/Diffusal) is done his farm explodes in a way that makes AM a sad puppy. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 10 2012 06:14 r.Evo wrote: ? PL has a VERY scary midgame. 15 min diffusal -> 20-22min heart is not hard to achieve and pretty damn strong. His biggest asset is his ability to farm everywhere at the same time without a farming item. Once his first item (Radiance/Diffusal) is done his farm explodes in a way that makes AM a sad puppy. PL absolutely sucks in lane and also sucks at tp fighting. He pretty much needs complete free farm for 15 minutes untouched to do anything while other carries are pretty decent at recovering and being useful elsewhere. | ||
blahz0r
3030 Posts
On November 10 2012 06:30 Itsmedudeman wrote: PL absolutely sucks in lane and also sucks at tp fighting. He pretty much needs complete free farm for 15 minutes untouched to do anything while other carries are pretty decent at recovering and being useful elsewhere. ... Have you seen the damage on PL's Spirit Lance? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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toemn
Germany915 Posts
I guess that's why pro teams ban this guy nowadays :D | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:14 toemn wrote: It would be great if you got out of the habit of referring to skills by their hotkeys. Just a tip.I never thought Undying is so fucking strong. I won the last 5 games with this guy and it wasn't even close. I just go solo hardlane and max Q and E. If they try to dive you just use tomb and spam Q. Build soul ring for even more spammage. Wow. In two games I scored a triple kill before the 12min mark because they people underestimate a maxed tombstone at this early level. He also is good for towerpushing and a beast in teamfights, he isn't strong when chasing heroes, though. But still one of the most fun heroes to play with. My build: Soulring > Phase Boots > Stick > Hood > Pipe > Heart, Q > E > W > R I guess that's why pro teams ban this guy nowadays :D | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Also, Aghanim's is very important for Undying. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:22 Firebolt145 wrote: Reverse captain's mode is hilarious Did you get the more worse team? | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Yeah, our drafter was terrible and gave them visage ????????????????? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:21 TheYango wrote: No real reason to get Phase+SR when the Phase damage/MS isn't all that useful to you (as you said, he's not good at chasing either way), and you don't need the SR HP regen because you have a heal. Just get Arcanes and buy your real items 700 gold sooner. Also, Aghanim's is very important for Undying. I don´t get why agha is important on him. The amplify gets increased by 5% and the heal from dying things gets around 50% stronger(6%->10% for creeps, 2%->3% for heroes) Is it really that big a deal? My intuition tells me a hood/pipe or a blademail would increase his performance more than a slight increase in his ult. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 10 2012 08:06 Firebolt145 wrote: Yeah, our drafter was terrible and gave them visage ????????????????? lol looked up "least played" on Dotabuff, picked those 5. | ||
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