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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
November 07 2012 04:44 GMT
#28721
Tbh, chen and ench can be done without, especially if you use "select all other units". Most other heroes are all a-moves with your other units (ie brood) or only have one unit (sylla). Can't imagine meepo without though, and beast was a pain. I have ctrl groups on f1 f2 f3 f4 for him though, as well as c for courier, z for select all other units, and misc control groups on x v b g. LoL such a pain

One note is though that you do need tab for chen ench with select all other units.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 05:03 GMT
#28722
FOR THE GLORY OF TL

WE WILL NOT SURRENDER
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 07 2012 06:11 GMT
#28723
HUGE PLAYS AT DIRE FOUNTAIN
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#28724
On November 07 2012 13:11 Anomarad wrote:
Hey guys, I'm still learning DOTA2 but do you guys think there's a hindrance in not having control group hotkeys? Right now I have 1-6 as item hotkeys instead. Should I roll with this and use tab for characters like venomancer or is there heroes that requires more than just the hero and 1 other type of unit?


you don't need them. just don't random (or repick if you get meepo lol)

i've been using 3 4 5 spacebar M4 M5 for items, 1 for hero, 2 for courier, and ` for "all other units"

works decent for sylla/ench/chen
Hates Fun🤔
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 07 2012 07:34 GMT
#28725
I used to hotkey almost all the item shops in dota1, and as pissed when you couldn't use that to buy items before you died in dota2. Instead of going 8r for radiance recipe, you have do ., then whatever hotkey the tier 4 weapons shop is (f or g?), then hit the hotkey for whatever position the radiance item is, then you still have to get the recipe.

You can drop things into your quick buy and there's a hotkey for it, but sometimes you're buying items out of order and want a certain component.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 07:41 GMT
#28726
WHY IS THIS &%$@ DIRETIDE @$}! SO $&/§ HARD
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
November 07 2012 07:43 GMT
#28727
On November 07 2012 13:11 Anomarad wrote:
Hey guys, I'm still learning DOTA2 but do you guys think there's a hindrance in not having control group hotkeys? Right now I have 1-6 as item hotkeys instead. Should I roll with this and use tab for characters like venomancer or is there heroes that requires more than just the hero and 1 other type of unit?



Of course not having control groups in dota is a hindrance. Its like having your whole army in sc2 in 1 control group, its doable, but you can do so much more with them in multiple groups. You will never be good with chen, enchantress and beastmaster without them. Its incredibly difficult to animation cancel your creeps and hero at the same time, block the enemy your creeps and move your scouthawk all around the map. If you box all your spiders in with your broodmother you'll end up feeding the enemy 400 gold when they AOE them to death instead of farming the jungle with them.

Ive always put my hero on control 1 from my war3 days so i dont know how you can play without them at all :/
In Mushi we trust
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
November 07 2012 07:48 GMT
#28728
On November 07 2012 16:41 r.Evo wrote:
WHY IS THIS &%$@ DIRETIDE @$}! SO $&/§ HARD


You guys should at least make your avatars spell out Team Liquid if you do manage to break the record
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Sephyr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia665 Posts
November 07 2012 08:09 GMT
#28729
On November 07 2012 16:43 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 13:11 Anomarad wrote:
Hey guys, I'm still learning DOTA2 but do you guys think there's a hindrance in not having control group hotkeys? Right now I have 1-6 as item hotkeys instead. Should I roll with this and use tab for characters like venomancer or is there heroes that requires more than just the hero and 1 other type of unit?



Of course not having control groups in dota is a hindrance. Its like having your whole army in sc2 in 1 control group, its doable, but you can do so much more with them in multiple groups. You will never be good with chen, enchantress and beastmaster without them. Its incredibly difficult to animation cancel your creeps and hero at the same time, block the enemy your creeps and move your scouthawk all around the map. If you box all your spiders in with your broodmother you'll end up feeding the enemy 400 gold when they AOE them to death instead of farming the jungle with them.

Ive always put my hero on control 1 from my war3 days so i dont know how you can play without them at all :/


Personally I have ` to command all units, 1 for Hero select and 2 for all Enchant/Chen/BM creeps. If I need to micro a certain unit I'm usually accurate in micro'ing it by just clicking it. That's usually sufficient until you hit very high competitive play as far as I know; though I agree just using ` to command all units is pretty bad Enchant/Chen play since it'll get quite confusing when tabbing between your creeps + hero.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 08:38 GMT
#28730
On November 07 2012 16:48 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 16:41 r.Evo wrote:
WHY IS THIS &%$@ DIRETIDE @$}! SO $&/§ HARD


You guys should at least make your avatars spell out Team Liquid if you do manage to break the record

THATS HARD

WE WILL JUST SHOUT SCBW HELL YEAH OR SOMETHING

PS: STILL FIGHTING FUCK YEAH.

(No, none of us is tired at all. DEDICATION.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 07 2012 08:40 GMT
#28731
On November 07 2012 17:38 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 16:48 Skullflower wrote:
On November 07 2012 16:41 r.Evo wrote:
WHY IS THIS &%$@ DIRETIDE @$}! SO $&/§ HARD


You guys should at least make your avatars spell out Team Liquid if you do manage to break the record

THATS HARD

WE WILL JUST SHOUT SCBW HELL YEAH OR SOMETHING

PS: STILL FIGHTING FUCK YEAH.

(No, none of us is tired at all. DEDICATION.)

How long have you guys been on it? O_o
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 08:44 GMT
#28732
WE NEED ONE MORE BRAVE KNIGHT.

GO NOW.

+1

+1

+1
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 08:48 GMT
#28733
We are REALLY close for this one and we think the time we're about to set can't be beat. NEED U GUYS.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 07 2012 08:49 GMT
#28734
Good luck <3 I'm not good enough to stand amongst heros in such a day and age.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 08:52 GMT
#28735
ALL WE NEED IS SOMEONE WHO CAN SPAM BUTTONZ YOU'LL GET THE COOL JOB TOO

T___T

TL =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 07 2012 08:53 GMT
#28736
Last fucking one for me, fucking hell
fuckity fuck fuck
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
November 07 2012 08:54 GMT
#28737
On November 07 2012 17:52 r.Evo wrote:
ALL WE NEED IS SOMEONE WHO CAN SPAM BUTTONZ YOU'LL GET THE COOL JOB TOO

T___T

TL =(

steamcommunity.com/id/cecek Add me
super gg
probecount
Profile Joined November 2012
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:25:48
November 07 2012 09:00 GMT
#28738
On November 07 2012 17:52 r.Evo wrote:
ALL WE NEED IS SOMEONE WHO CAN SPAM BUTTONZ YOU'LL GET THE COOL JOB TOO

T___T

TL =(


do you still have a spot open?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2012 09:05 GMT
#28739
Flamewheel and other people are weak, looks like this is our last attempt for tonight.

Back at 10, may the Corgi Assault Unit be with us. Thanks guys. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
November 07 2012 09:06 GMT
#28740
NEVER GIVE UP EVO!

I had hoped you would have finished by the time i woke up. If you are still at it in 2 hours, I'm in :p
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
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