On November 04 2012 08:54 Ginastic wrote:
What do Unusual Essence do? And i can use it with a Seraphic egg? (full upgraded)
What do Unusual Essence do? And i can use it with a Seraphic egg? (full upgraded)
yes even up to 3 times.
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Teejing
Germany1360 Posts
November 04 2012 00:04 GMT
#28201
On November 04 2012 08:54 Ginastic wrote: What do Unusual Essence do? And i can use it with a Seraphic egg? (full upgraded) yes even up to 3 times. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
November 04 2012 00:25 GMT
#28202
On November 04 2012 08:34 Prime`Rib wrote: I just read the 6.75 Changelog again. Bristleback really caught my eyes. The capped for Quill Spray is 400 physical damage that cant be blocked. That means if BB farmed enough and stood within the teamfight for 30 sec. He would put some some sick damage just from Quill Spray + Goo and his Warpath. Now combo him with Undying, we got some sick early push and some decent late game fighting. While a team fight generally last from about 5s to 15s, post patch BB is very strong regardless he is in a team fight or not (he is more of a chasing hero). A few stacks of spray+warpath can kill any support in 3-5hits in early game (not even joking lol). | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 04 2012 00:26 GMT
#28203
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
November 04 2012 00:34 GMT
#28204
At over 16k HP the current HP overflow and are displayed negative. The max HP overflow at ~32k and it starts back at 1. Kills and deaths(and presumably assists) overflow at 64. Damage from strength overflows at presumably 2048, but weirdly seems to go to 1023 before starting back at 0, If you ever reach 64 kills, it will be displayed as 0. Could be a way to mask your really failed games. Just feed 64 times and your deaths will start at 0 again(also you will probably be reported). The engine seems to handle big numbers fine though. 55+k crits are possible. So in essence, what started as goodhearted contest got progressively worse with each abuse that got figured out. Just like the diretide mode itself. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
November 04 2012 00:43 GMT
#28205
On November 04 2012 09:34 Mataza wrote: So in essence, what started as goodhearted contest got progressively worse with each abuse that got figured out. Just like the diretide mode itself. That really isnt valves fault though, people are just shady. How do you expect someone to stay in the game for 8 hours. Like seriously? Go out, get some sunlight and breath some air. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 04 2012 00:48 GMT
#28206
On November 04 2012 09:26 NB wrote: smguy theory crafted on reddit that using pudge isnt that efficient bc the number could get overload by dota2 engine. Instead using rubick chen to buff HP of a single creep and let clinkz eat it is much better. So technically, you can 1 shot rosh in this current cycle. This is genius :D | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
November 04 2012 01:34 GMT
#28207
On November 04 2012 09:43 Spicy_Curry wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2012 09:34 Mataza wrote: So in essence, what started as goodhearted contest got progressively worse with each abuse that got figured out. Just like the diretide mode itself. That really isnt valves fault though, people are just shady. How do you expect someone to stay in the game for 8 hours. Like seriously? Go out, get some sunlight and breath some air. Not putting any blame on anyone. If I had to, it would be the very obvious problem of not having a resolution for a tie. That was a question that crossed my mind the very moment I understood the game mode. Even Roshans inability to cliffwalk is acceptable as it balances out by putting you into a 4v5 situation. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
November 04 2012 01:35 GMT
#28208
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2012 01:36 GMT
#28209
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2012 01:37 GMT
#28210
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
November 04 2012 01:40 GMT
#28211
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
November 04 2012 01:43 GMT
#28212
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N1k0
Uruguay1075 Posts
November 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#28213
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Tahona
United States252 Posts
November 04 2012 02:00 GMT
#28214
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 04 2012 02:12 GMT
#28215
edit: scratch that, i think we could easily make 10 new account and attempt the race. I currently have 3 extra betakey, if somebody willing to chip in 7 more we could do this in 1 or 2 take. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
November 04 2012 02:27 GMT
#28216
On November 04 2012 10:43 Torte de Lini wrote: Same :B As long as MLG is on Flash fighting... | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
November 04 2012 02:31 GMT
#28217
On November 04 2012 11:12 NB wrote: its not a good idea attempting this on the weekend with uncertain mmr, unless you have a group of 10 people have always been group matchmaking from very beginning. edit: scratch that, i think we could easily make 10 new account and attempt the race. I currently have 3 extra betakey, if somebody willing to chip in 7 more we could do this in 1 or 2 take. I´ll be laughing so hard when the golden roshan is untradable. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
November 04 2012 02:43 GMT
#28218
On November 04 2012 11:31 Mataza wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2012 11:12 NB wrote: its not a good idea attempting this on the weekend with uncertain mmr, unless you have a group of 10 people have always been group matchmaking from very beginning. edit: scratch that, i think we could easily make 10 new account and attempt the race. I currently have 3 extra betakey, if somebody willing to chip in 7 more we could do this in 1 or 2 take. I´ll be laughing so hard when the golden roshan is untradable. you could sell the account... | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 04 2012 02:45 GMT
#28219
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 04 2012 03:12 GMT
#28220
Each Holy Persuasion adds 300 HP. Roshan has 150000 HP and let's just say 80 armor, which is 82.76% physical reduction. Means Clinkz has to have one attack hit for 870000 damage. Clinkz gains 8% of a creep's life when he Death Pacts it, meaning Clinkz has to gain damage from a 10875000 HP creep. That equates to 36250 conversions, or 18125 conversions split between two people (Chen and Rubick). Holy Persuasion has an 18 second cooldown, so to buff one neutral creep with 18125 conversions would take 5437.5 minutes, or 90.625 hours. Note that numbers aren't exact because Clinkz will have base damage and the neutral creep will have base HP! That number seems daunting! Except you can use minus armor stuff to make life easier. If you can bring Roshan down to 20 armor, then he resists only 55% physical damage. Clinkz therefore needs to hit for 330000 damage. This equates to consuming a 4125000 HP creep, which takes 13750 conversions to buff. Split that between two people for 6875 conversions per person, which will take 34.375 hours. Still quite a long time to sit and persuade. These numbers assume neither player will sleep as well. But you'd set an unbeatable Roshan record of pretty much nil time. More math! Assuming you don't plan on one-shotting Roshan, you can still kill him quickly. Let's assume Clinkz has maximum AS, so he attacks 2.94 times per second. If you want to kill a 20 armor Roshan in around 10 seconds, that's 30 attacks. Each attack has to deal 5000 physical damage after reductions, or 11000 damage pre-reduction. This equates to a consumed creep of 137500 HP, which takes ~460 persuasions, or ~230 per person. That will only take you 69 minutes! So after everything else, only 1.5 hours to set up and execute. I'm so down to do this. | ||
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