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On November 02 2012 21:10 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 21:06 NB wrote:On November 02 2012 20:59 Firebolt145 wrote:On November 02 2012 20:57 NB wrote:On November 02 2012 20:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that the record holders for cycle 1 also dominated a wolf and a centaur with HotD's, sold later. Funnily enough, they left the centaur and the wolf out of range for the final fight for some reason? Who knows.
R.evo would you be able to include me into these math things? I'm interested, may even be interested enough to take part in the record attempts if you still don't have enough people :D the record of 1st cycle is eblade dagon tinker leshrac fountain kill, wtf are u talking about? I'm ignoring the exploited records. so say cycle 2.... its the name of the cycle ~_~ wtf? also: this unusual rosh courier is being traded via reddit http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=106132472 @_@ Some pinoy guy actually offering 56 keys(event keys + normal) and whole inventory @_@ I want  No, because the first cycle had two records; one exploited and one non exploited, which is what I did my write up on. Cycle 2 has another record, which has some differences from cycle 1's record, for example they used an Alchemist instead of an SF and prioritised more daedaluses.
so where do you pull all of those record down now? the match is no longer on the hall of fame isnt it ~_~ Its kinda useless if you talk about something and people cant see it themselves -_-
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On November 02 2012 19:41 flamewheel wrote:
50 armor is 75% physical reduction. Obsidian is maxed out theoretically with 5 Hexes and a Mjollnir. You can deal ~300 physical DPS and 700 pure DPS per second. The 700 pure translates into 2800 physical. Drow deals 3000 DPS with 4 Butterflies, a Buriza, and a Rapier. At values of 50 armor or above, pure damage is better.
Yet the way record-setters are doing it involves mass armor reduction. At 20 armor or so, Drow is much, much better than Obsidian since 20 armor is only 55% physical reduction. There aren't enough pure damage dealers.
For OD Hex is better than Soul Booster/Bloodstone since 35 INT = 455 mana while Bloodstone only gives 400. You also get AS from the AGI in the Hex.
I'm not sure roshan is receiving the full pure damage numbers.
And aghanims huskar might work ok (4 second cd). I don't think diretide roshan has 75% magic resistance, otherwise he'd lose 1/8 his hp or 18750 from the first hit, maybe more if shell really works.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
On November 02 2012 21:19 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 21:10 Firebolt145 wrote:On November 02 2012 21:06 NB wrote:On November 02 2012 20:59 Firebolt145 wrote:On November 02 2012 20:57 NB wrote:On November 02 2012 20:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that the record holders for cycle 1 also dominated a wolf and a centaur with HotD's, sold later. Funnily enough, they left the centaur and the wolf out of range for the final fight for some reason? Who knows.
R.evo would you be able to include me into these math things? I'm interested, may even be interested enough to take part in the record attempts if you still don't have enough people :D the record of 1st cycle is eblade dagon tinker leshrac fountain kill, wtf are u talking about? I'm ignoring the exploited records. so say cycle 2.... its the name of the cycle ~_~ wtf? also: this unusual rosh courier is being traded via reddit http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=106132472 @_@ Some pinoy guy actually offering 56 keys(event keys + normal) and whole inventory @_@ I want No, because the first cycle had two records; one exploited and one non exploited, which is what I did my write up on. Cycle 2 has another record, which has some differences from cycle 1's record, for example they used an Alchemist instead of an SF and prioritised more daedaluses. so where do you pull all of those record down now? the match is no longer on the hall of fame isnt it ~_~ Its kinda useless if you talk about something and people cant see it themselves -_-
They don't need to watch it themselves because I gave a pretty good run down of everything that happened.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359¤tpage=1398#27949
Please read before randomly talking about stuff.
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Any1 know if there is going to be a dota2 tournament in ESWC? noticed the sc2 part but no signs of Dota 2.
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On November 02 2012 17:02 Angra wrote:
I dunno about anyone else but Diretide has lost its fun for me now. When it first started nobody knew what the fuck to do so everyone was just running around stealing candy all over the place. Now everyone's figured out that you just play defensive all game until it gets towards the end when you just 5-man teamfight once, wipe the other team, and take all the candy. It's not really even fun anymore for me because everyone just stands mid/near their ancient entrance defending almost all game. Pretty much no excitement happens, and if you try to steal candy at all, you just die because almost their whole team is defending the entire time. It's just boring.
Is that higher or lower than my mmr?
In my game it´s usually the team that gets a candy advantage early that wins. It has been once that 3 defend and 2 farm the side lanes which gives more candy than 5 at mid/bucket, but usually it is pretty berserk.
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On November 02 2012 22:47 sekritzzz wrote:
Any1 know if there is going to be a dota2 tournament in ESWC? noticed the sc2 part but no signs of Dota 2.
there will be a tournament but only with navi dignitas 3 frenchs + 2 teams from kosovo/another country
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On November 02 2012 20:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that the record holders for cycle 1 also dominated a wolf and a centaur with HotD's, sold later. Funnily enough, they left the centaur and the wolf out of range for the final fight for some reason? Who knows.
R.evo would you be able to include me into these math things? I'm interested, may even be interested enough to take part in the record attempts if you still don't have enough people :D
There needs to be MORE MATH
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On November 02 2012 22:52 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 22:47 sekritzzz wrote:
Any1 know if there is going to be a dota2 tournament in ESWC? noticed the sc2 part but no signs of Dota 2. there will be a tournament but only with navi dignitas 3 frenchs + 2 teams from kosovo/another country
Its a Navi vs Dignitas showmatch for 12k
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Of the essences people have receieved, what have been the most common and least common?
Most common has been Wex whereas least is Quas. Sadly, I want to make a white Greevil but have not found a single quas. Cruelty I say.
Also, I have yet to go for a Rosh speed run, it does sound fun though.
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On November 02 2012 23:12 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 22:52 Yoshi- wrote:On November 02 2012 22:47 sekritzzz wrote:
Any1 know if there is going to be a dota2 tournament in ESWC? noticed the sc2 part but no signs of Dota 2. there will be a tournament but only with navi dignitas 3 frenchs + 2 teams from kosovo/another country Its a Navi vs Dignitas showmatch for 12k
12k for the winner? Wow...why do people keep on giving Navi free cash?
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On November 02 2012 23:16 Nilrem wrote:
Of the essences people have receieved, what have been the most common and least common?
Most common has been Wex whereas least is Quas. Sadly, I want to make a white Greevil but have not found a single quas. Cruelty I say.
Also, I have yet to go for a Rosh speed run, it does sound fun though.
I think all the base color essences should have comparable drop rate. It´s the unusual/shadow essences that are obscenely more rare.
From everything I heard(and did) the base essences go for 1 rare each. The big ones go for more than my entire inventory is worth.(actually it´s been said to be somewhere around 8-15 keys)
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On November 02 2012 19:41 flamewheel wrote:
50 armor is 75% physical reduction. Obsidian is maxed out theoretically with 5 Hexes and a Mjollnir. You can deal ~300 physical DPS and 700 pure DPS per second. The 700 pure translates into 2800 physical. Drow deals 3000 DPS with 4 Butterflies, a Buriza, and a Rapier. At values of 50 armor or above, pure damage is better.
Yet the way record-setters are doing it involves mass armor reduction. At 20 armor or so, Drow is much, much better than Obsidian since 20 armor is only 55% physical reduction. There aren't enough pure damage dealers.
For OD Hex is better than Soul Booster/Bloodstone since 35 INT = 455 mana while Bloodstone only gives 400. You also get AS from the AGI in the Hex.
I tried to use OD against the rosh in diretide but the damage seemed non-existant, at nearly 4k mana i only deal 150 or so bonus pure damage, it didn't make sense.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
On November 02 2012 23:00 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 20:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that the record holders for cycle 1 also dominated a wolf and a centaur with HotD's, sold later. Funnily enough, they left the centaur and the wolf out of range for the final fight for some reason? Who knows.
R.evo would you be able to include me into these math things? I'm interested, may even be interested enough to take part in the record attempts if you still don't have enough people :D There needs to be MORE MATH
I'm good with numbers, I'm sure Kwark and the rest of the EVE group will vouch for me. I have a book on them and everything.
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MORE MAFF
NB pointed out earlier that queuing into each other on the weekend seems like EVEN MORE trouble, right now this is honestly our biggest problem. Unless someone has a great idea how to get 5+5 to work we'll try 5+4 and see how that goes. As for when, I guess we try the same as yesterday: Ask around in late EU, and play games till it seems likely we can find the whole uberstack.
Took just like 6 hours yesterday, npnp.
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THE CUTENESS O_O <3
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28102 Posts
On November 02 2012 23:53 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 23:00 flamewheel wrote:On November 02 2012 20:21 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ah yeah, forgot to mention that the record holders for cycle 1 also dominated a wolf and a centaur with HotD's, sold later. Funnily enough, they left the centaur and the wolf out of range for the final fight for some reason? Who knows.
R.evo would you be able to include me into these math things? I'm interested, may even be interested enough to take part in the record attempts if you still don't have enough people :D There needs to be MORE MATH I'm good with numbers, I'm sure Kwark and the rest of the EVE group will vouch for me. I have a book on them and everything.
Being good with numbers is a common characteristic among us EVE players.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Why don't we do 3 5-man stacks and queue at the same time? Higher chance for getting the fullstack.... I'll do it, if you need people. http://steamcommunity.com/id/cecek Add me, if you need help with the speedrun.
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Somebody should really make a Diretide Speedrun organization/mathcraft thread.
For example, I'm curious as to the math on 5xMeepo (sceptre + 5xethereal blades) = (320 damage x ~3 attacks per second X 5 meepo) = <5000DPS
Etc Etc.
You know, to keep it out of the general discussion and make organizing attempts easier. I don't particularly qualify as an OP.
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Why did they ruin diretide by trying to "balance it". It's now just an evil 20+ minutes you go through to get some items. Lovely never playing this shit again
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On November 03 2012 01:10 Numy wrote:
Why did they ruin diretide by trying to "balance it". It's now just an evil 20+ minutes you go through to get some items. Lovely never playing this shit again
I still enjoy it. Actually it is very useful to try heroes that I haven't played, knowing that it doesn't count if I lose.
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When it first came out everyone was just bashing heads against eachother and being crazy with courier and denies etc. Now it's just zzzzzzzzzz
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