EPTYou don't just pick Tide for post-Blink Ravage initiates.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
You don't just pick Tide for post-Blink Ravage initiates. | ||
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rabidch
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
Actually this is as close as we get to the cent tuskarr combo in dota2 :O | ||
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BlitzerSC
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Nevuk
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Brainling
United States660 Posts
I'll try and start remembering to do it. | ||
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Qbek
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
Not to mention the burst Cent can do is greater, whereas Tide will need to wait for Anchor Smash to cool down to get to similar levels of damage. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 31 2012 04:21 akatama wrote: The thing is you don't need a blink as Cent to initiate, you just need someone to get in close to the enemy team with ANY hero in your team. Blinkers, force staff or a blink dagger on heroes who aim to get it fast are just as good. Not to mention it is harder to steal by Rubick if you pop it and someone else goes in instead of you. Lower mana cost and cooldown greatly help. It can also be used as sort of a counter-initiation tool, and due to its range the only thing that matters is for Cent to not be disabled. Just one minute cooldown at lvl 16 is also huge, it means its up every time you engage in hero fights and don't have to save it for the big clash. Not to mention the burst Cent can do is greater, whereas Tide will need to wait for Anchor Smash to cool down to get to similar levels of damage. Again, you're comparing Tide and Centaur on the basis of something that is 1) Centaur's strongest point, and 2) not the ony reason pick Tide. Centaur doesn't *replace* Tide in the way you're implying. He's excels in some of the things that Tide can get picked for, but in others, he has no relevant usefulness. They're different heroes that are good at different things. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 31 2012 04:09 Qbek wrote: Lol I played with a drow that didn't toggle the aura at all, off all game :C Yeah I've told like 5-6 drow players that their aura can be toggled to affect creeps. Suddenly the game either goes from close - super far ahead or from being behind to being close. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Centaur really is not like tide. Tide is highly effective with mana boots, +/- blink. Centaur scales with strength all game long and is hilariously bad with just boots. Or at least, if not hilariously bad then not even remotely close to his real potential. Their farm priorities make them very distinct. I guess in pubs it matters less. I'm not saying tide is better than centaur (quite the opposite). @Pseudoku I'm well aware of how to check my skill. Just pointing out that "very high bracket" is NOT the way to do it. | ||
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Nevuk
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Froob
United Kingdom342 Posts
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Capped
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
While he might not be in the old lycan category (close to unstoppable farming, pushing and damage machine) , he is one more thing to consider when in the ban/pick phase. It will make the game much more diverse. As a side note, a early level of Return is hilarious against harass: it does about 22 damage at level 1 with base starting stats, while supports are hitting for 50-ish damage  . | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 31 2012 03:22 akatama wrote: Anyone else thinks Cent can be used as a replacement for good old Tide? Ultimates are similar (Stampede does less dmg, but does not require a blink on cent himself), but Cent has better burst and an extra stun. They occupy different different roles/positions on a team. So no, he's not a direct replacement. | ||
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akatama
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Qbek
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Night stalker does everything he does better. | ||
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