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Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
October 30 2012 11:59 GMT
#27261
On October 30 2012 19:47 Capped wrote:
Peoples livelyhoods being wrecked.

People dying.

Waves of destruction.

FOR FUCK SAKE I CANT PLAY DOTA 2 PROPERLY!


Well, for a lot of people, their DotA experience is the only thing that the hurricane is effecting, personally. It's natural that they will complain about it, there's nothing inherently malicious or ignorant about it.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 13:17:34
October 30 2012 13:16 GMT
#27262
Finally learned how to lasthit..You need to pick your target then spam S untill your ready to kill it..Different mechanics from *cough* LoL *cough* where you had to juke around untill you last hit, standing still would get you owned quickly. (well it still does, but its different right XD) In dota the heros actually "turn" so theres always a delay in last hitting if your juking like that..It all makes sense naow.

Went from managing 4 cs in the first 10 mins to about 30-40, its still shit, but i dont feel like a tard now! :D

On October 30 2012 20:59 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 19:47 Capped wrote:
Peoples livelyhoods being wrecked.

People dying.

Waves of destruction.

FOR FUCK SAKE I CANT PLAY DOTA 2 PROPERLY!


Well, for a lot of people, their DotA experience is the only thing that the hurricane is effecting, personally. It's natural that they will complain about it, there's nothing inherently malicious or ignorant about it.


It was meant as a joke btw, i know nobody is thinking "I wish more people would die instead of my internet game being disrupted" - Thats ludicrous.
Useless wet fish.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
October 30 2012 13:19 GMT
#27263
On October 30 2012 22:16 Capped wrote:
Finally learned how to lasthit..You need to pick your target then spam S untill your ready to kill it..Different mechanics from *cough* LoL *cough* where you had to juke around untill you last hit, standing still would get you owned quickly. (well it still does, but its different right XD) In dota the heros actually "turn" so theres always a delay in last hitting if your juking like that..It all makes sense naow.

Went from managing 4 cs in the first 10 mins to about 30-40, its still shit, but i dont feel like a tard now! :D

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 20:59 Bobble wrote:
On October 30 2012 19:47 Capped wrote:
Peoples livelyhoods being wrecked.

People dying.

Waves of destruction.

FOR FUCK SAKE I CANT PLAY DOTA 2 PROPERLY!


Well, for a lot of people, their DotA experience is the only thing that the hurricane is effecting, personally. It's natural that they will complain about it, there's nothing inherently malicious or ignorant about it.


It was meant as a joke btw, i know nobody is thinking "I wish more people would die instead of my internet game being disrupted" - Thats ludicrous.


Or you can turn auto-attack off and just stand there without spamming S, as a new DotA player with no old habits I actually prefer this way.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
October 30 2012 13:28 GMT
#27264
^Except that makes you predictable as to when will you lasthit and can easily be denied...

There's a reason you cancel attack animation.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 30 2012 13:36 GMT
#27265
On October 30 2012 22:28 Andr3 wrote:
^Except that makes you predictable as to when will you lasthit and can easily be denied...

There's a reason you cancel attack animation.


or just do both and you don't have to spam S as much to fake animations

w/e finger you use for spamming S will thank you later
ffxiv enjoyer
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
October 30 2012 13:58 GMT
#27266
On October 30 2012 22:16 Capped wrote:
Finally learned how to lasthit..You need to pick your target then spam S untill your ready to kill it..Different mechanics from *cough* LoL *cough* where you had to juke around untill you last hit, standing still would get you owned quickly. (well it still does, but its different right XD) In dota the heros actually "turn" so theres always a delay in last hitting if your juking like that..It all makes sense naow.

Went from managing 4 cs in the first 10 mins to about 30-40, its still shit, but i dont feel like a tard now! :D

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 20:59 Bobble wrote:
On October 30 2012 19:47 Capped wrote:
Peoples livelyhoods being wrecked.

People dying.

Waves of destruction.

FOR FUCK SAKE I CANT PLAY DOTA 2 PROPERLY!


Well, for a lot of people, their DotA experience is the only thing that the hurricane is effecting, personally. It's natural that they will complain about it, there's nothing inherently malicious or ignorant about it.


It was meant as a joke btw, i know nobody is thinking "I wish more people would die instead of my internet game being disrupted" - Thats ludicrous.


I apologise. I'm normally good at picking up jokes from just pure context, but I don't think i'll be able to say that anymore.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:04:31
October 30 2012 14:04 GMT
#27267
The report system WORKS !!!! IT WORKS

This morning I played with a Tinker who decided to ruin the game for all of us because our HARDLANE SOLO Bestmaster farmed the ancients. We all reported him and look what I just found after launching my dota 2 client.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I <3 you MM gods.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 30 2012 14:21 GMT
#27268
Had what I feel was my strongest game of Dota 2 yet last night. Brewmaster solo mid, ended the game with 190 last hits, right around 550gpm and 10/1/7....and I could have avoided that one death if I had just pressed R faster.

It's not an impressive stat line for a pro or high level player to be sure, but as a relatively new player, I felt good about it. The entire game just felt 'right'. My map awareness was decent, I was all over the place, pushing towers, showing up for surprise sex ganks, et al. Just overall felt like my most complete came of Dota to date, and gave me the sense that all the study and practice I'm putting in is starting to amount to something.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:23:29
October 30 2012 14:21 GMT
#27269
On October 30 2012 22:36 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 22:28 Andr3 wrote:
^Except that makes you predictable as to when will you lasthit and can easily be denied...

There's a reason you cancel attack animation.


or just do both and you don't have to spam S as much to fake animations

w/e finger you use for spamming S will thank you later


Second alternative is to do both while canceling the attack animation at different intervals instead of just spamming.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
October 30 2012 14:36 GMT
#27270
On October 30 2012 22:28 Andr3 wrote:
^Except that makes you predictable as to when will you lasthit and can easily be denied...

There's a reason you cancel attack animation.


??? It's pretty predictable when someone is going to last hit, you don't cancel animations because of that.
RickOrShay
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand132 Posts
October 30 2012 14:49 GMT
#27271
On October 30 2012 23:04 BlitzerSC wrote:
The report system WORKS !!!! IT WORKS

This morning I played with a Tinker who decided to ruin the game for all of us because our HARDLANE SOLO Bestmaster farmed the ancients. We all reported him and look what I just found after launching my dota 2 client.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I <3 you MM gods.


Nothing better than logging in and seeing that message.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 30 2012 14:58 GMT
#27272
Ehhhhh... I've seen that message a few times, but I never remember who it is for. No point in dwelling on the bads, I banish them from my mind as soon as I see they aren't on my team next MM game
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
October 30 2012 14:59 GMT
#27273
On October 30 2012 22:16 Capped wrote:
Finally learned how to lasthit..You need to pick your target then spam S untill your ready to kill it..Different mechanics from *cough* LoL *cough* where you had to juke around untill you last hit, standing still would get you owned quickly. (well it still does, but its different right XD) In dota the heros actually "turn" so theres always a delay in last hitting if your juking like that..It all makes sense naow.

Went from managing 4 cs in the first 10 mins to about 30-40, its still shit, but i dont feel like a tard now! :D

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 20:59 Bobble wrote:
On October 30 2012 19:47 Capped wrote:
Peoples livelyhoods being wrecked.

People dying.

Waves of destruction.

FOR FUCK SAKE I CANT PLAY DOTA 2 PROPERLY!


Well, for a lot of people, their DotA experience is the only thing that the hurricane is effecting, personally. It's natural that they will complain about it, there's nothing inherently malicious or ignorant about it.


It was meant as a joke btw, i know nobody is thinking "I wish more people would die instead of my internet game being disrupted" - Thats ludicrous.


Tbh I still prefer moving around, you just need to get accustomed to turnrates. Standing still spamming stop attack works when you are in good position or done shortly to distract their lasthit, but makes you easier target for many skills and gives a small window for your enemies to line themselves up better according to your position.

But if it works for you, no problem. 30-40 is still >>> 4 : )
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 30 2012 15:04 GMT
#27274
I don't use S at all anymore. I used to, but once I started understanding move speeds and turn rates, it became kind of a crutch. It's still useful, and if you're really quick on the draw you can do some funny things with heroes that have a critical strike...but I rarely use it to last hit anymore.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 30 2012 15:08 GMT
#27275
On October 31 2012 00:04 Brainling wrote:
I don't use S at all anymore. I used to, but once I started understanding move speeds and turn rates, it became kind of a crutch. It's still useful, and if you're really quick on the draw you can do some funny things with heroes that have a critical strike...but I rarely use it to last hit anymore.

Can you take advantage of the crits animation? Maybe I'm too slow, but it seems absolutely impossible to me to keep stopping your attack animation and only let the crit go off.
super gg
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 30 2012 15:08 GMT
#27276
Unless you are a freefarming melee, don't use s spamming.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 15:09:59
October 30 2012 15:09 GMT
#27277
im pretty sure its virtually impossible to take advantage of crits animations like that. It seems like you might be able to with Flash (Im talking DC comics Flash not BW Flash) like reflexes but I bet its more or less impossible.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 30 2012 15:10 GMT
#27278
It's possible but really fucking hard. And gets impossible after first attack speed item
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 30 2012 15:11 GMT
#27279
It's almost impossible, but I've seen it done on accident a couple of times. Really it's just fun to freak your opponent out with, especially on CK who does this huge RAWRRR slash animation with a special sound when his crit triggers.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 30 2012 15:15 GMT
#27280
I still farm with S spam even on ranged heroes, except for some super-fast-attack-animation heroes like sniper. I still think S spam is king on heroes like Lina and Drow.

As for S spam to take advantage of crits...anyone able to do that should undergo a doping screen because you high, son.
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