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Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 29 2012 16:33 GMT
#27101
On October 30 2012 01:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 01:02 duoform wrote:
On October 29 2012 23:31 teapoted wrote:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDY4MjY3MjY0.html

iG / NA / LGD team houses. At the end they get Misery and Pajkatt to say something in Chinese, it's pretty amusing.

I don't wanna create a shitstorm but this is exactly what M5.Alex Ich from LoL meant. A lot of professional players focus on having mansions and superficial millionaire bullshit and then don't win shit cought CLG.LoL/Curse.LoL/EG.Starcraft cought. You don't need to live in a millionaire mansion if you are going to practice in a small room with your teammates.

I'm glad to see Pajkatt and Misery so happy there. Hope to see action for them soonish and maybe LGD should stream a showmatch between LGD.int vs LGD.cn.


Wait, EG Starcraft is in there?

You know why they have the house they do, right? First, property in Arizona is cheap. Second, it's near where SirScoots lives, which happens to be their studio for EGMCS. Third, the house is where they do all their creative stuff and original content. They need the space for that sort of thing alone. I mean, they've had a documentary crew filming them for the last year, plus stuff like Geniuses Falling and No More Announcements. I don't know anything about CLG or Curse's LoL teams, but I doubt the situations are the same. And if Alex directly brought up EG's SC2 team as an example of this millionaire-itis, then he's completely full of shit.


It would also ignore the fact that EG players have won several tournaments in the last 12 months. Or the fact that EG has very strong, very consistent, sponsorship because they run their business like an actual business, not a college frat party.

It's called cognitive bias. People dislike EG, so they just lump them in with whatever "bad" group they want.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 29 2012 16:34 GMT
#27102
On October 30 2012 01:22 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 01:17 MrCon wrote:
Ok so, played a game vs Drow. Not an usual game when you rax and it's gg, it was pretty close.
Even tho we managed to rax once then rax again later.
Guess what, even our mega lanes couldn't push vs Drow aura xD In fact they were pushed most of the time (which was pretty good in this case cause they couldn't really cross the river so they couldn't farm much). This is pretty sick :O


Who was on Drow's team?

That's Drow's real strength now, paring her with the right heroes. Alone, she's strong but not over the top strong. With the right heroes on your team (think Sniper or Enigma), her global aura becomes crazy.

Silencer Furion Drow BeastMaster Windrunner
https://dotabuff.com/matches/55105610
Our lanes were pushed non stop, even when we raxed 2 lanes (they never raxed us). And that without any agility item on drow except manta :o And that's with my non stop ulti to defend our lanes too. Sick.

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#27103
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Nature's Prophet + Aghanims had more to do with the lanes being pushed than Drow aura...
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 29 2012 16:39 GMT
#27104
That's very possible xD Dunno why I didn't think about that directly :o
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 29 2012 16:42 GMT
#27105
I played a game where I was Rhasta and laned with a Luna while having a Drow on my team

+18 auto attack damage at level 1 or so, was pretty fun.
WriterXiao8~~
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 29 2012 16:42 GMT
#27106
On that team, yeah. You really don't have anyone but Drow and your creeps directly benefiting from her aura.

I would say Furion is probably a big reason you were so pushed. Sounds like that Furion had a clue.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 16:55:11
October 29 2012 16:50 GMT
#27107
^yeah he's probably the reason we were that pushed, but still during the creeps vs creep battles our waves evaporated really quickly. Dunno why I didn't factored it at first, but the aura is still sick.
Funny thing is during the game I was saying how "drow aura keep pushing non stop" and I didn't even think of the furion even tho I was squishy and each ulti hurt me a lot :D
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 29 2012 16:51 GMT
#27108
Oh, it's very much still a sick aura, no doubt that.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
October 29 2012 16:51 GMT
#27109
On October 30 2012 01:33 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 01:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:02 duoform wrote:
On October 29 2012 23:31 teapoted wrote:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDY4MjY3MjY0.html

iG / NA / LGD team houses. At the end they get Misery and Pajkatt to say something in Chinese, it's pretty amusing.

I don't wanna create a shitstorm but this is exactly what M5.Alex Ich from LoL meant. A lot of professional players focus on having mansions and superficial millionaire bullshit and then don't win shit cought CLG.LoL/Curse.LoL/EG.Starcraft cought. You don't need to live in a millionaire mansion if you are going to practice in a small room with your teammates.

I'm glad to see Pajkatt and Misery so happy there. Hope to see action for them soonish and maybe LGD should stream a showmatch between LGD.int vs LGD.cn.


Wait, EG Starcraft is in there?

You know why they have the house they do, right? First, property in Arizona is cheap. Second, it's near where SirScoots lives, which happens to be their studio for EGMCS. Third, the house is where they do all their creative stuff and original content. They need the space for that sort of thing alone. I mean, they've had a documentary crew filming them for the last year, plus stuff like Geniuses Falling and No More Announcements. I don't know anything about CLG or Curse's LoL teams, but I doubt the situations are the same. And if Alex directly brought up EG's SC2 team as an example of this millionaire-itis, then he's completely full of shit.


It would also ignore the fact that EG players have won several tournaments in the last 12 months. Or the fact that EG has very strong, very consistent, sponsorship because they run their business like an actual business, not a college frat party.

It's called cognitive bias. People dislike EG, so they just lump them in with whatever "bad" group they want.


I just gave an example and we all know IdrA, iNcontroL and Machine don't win shit. Of course EG has people like Stephano and ThorZaIN who actually show some interest and win something... besides that tell me what "several tournaments" EG won in the last 12 months!

We are not talking about sponsors, or even business here. We are talking about winning events. You talk about "college frat party", I guess you didn't watch last week Inside of the Game because both IdrA and iNcontroL looked like 12 years old kids! I don't even dislike EG and I'm very happy to see Maelk and Fear in such a big name as EG, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to worship famous people in the scene only because they live in a mansion and that's what that guy from LoL wanted to say...

Also, 6.76c parity is on DotA2 guys.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 16:57:41
October 29 2012 16:55 GMT
#27110
On October 30 2012 01:51 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 01:33 Brainling wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:02 duoform wrote:
On October 29 2012 23:31 teapoted wrote:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDY4MjY3MjY0.html

iG / NA / LGD team houses. At the end they get Misery and Pajkatt to say something in Chinese, it's pretty amusing.

I don't wanna create a shitstorm but this is exactly what M5.Alex Ich from LoL meant. A lot of professional players focus on having mansions and superficial millionaire bullshit and then don't win shit cought CLG.LoL/Curse.LoL/EG.Starcraft cought. You don't need to live in a millionaire mansion if you are going to practice in a small room with your teammates.

I'm glad to see Pajkatt and Misery so happy there. Hope to see action for them soonish and maybe LGD should stream a showmatch between LGD.int vs LGD.cn.


Wait, EG Starcraft is in there?

You know why they have the house they do, right? First, property in Arizona is cheap. Second, it's near where SirScoots lives, which happens to be their studio for EGMCS. Third, the house is where they do all their creative stuff and original content. They need the space for that sort of thing alone. I mean, they've had a documentary crew filming them for the last year, plus stuff like Geniuses Falling and No More Announcements. I don't know anything about CLG or Curse's LoL teams, but I doubt the situations are the same. And if Alex directly brought up EG's SC2 team as an example of this millionaire-itis, then he's completely full of shit.


It would also ignore the fact that EG players have won several tournaments in the last 12 months. Or the fact that EG has very strong, very consistent, sponsorship because they run their business like an actual business, not a college frat party.

It's called cognitive bias. People dislike EG, so they just lump them in with whatever "bad" group they want.


I just gave an example and we all know IdrA, iNcontroL and Machine don't win shit. Of course EG has people like Stephano and ThorZaIN who actually show some interest and win something... besides that tell me what "several tournaments" EG won in the last 12 months!

We are not talking about sponsors, or even business here. We are talking about winning events. You talk about "college frat party", I guess you didn't watch last week Inside of the Game because both IdrA and iNcontroL looked like 12 years old kids! I don't even dislike EG and I'm very happy to see Maelk and Fear in such a big name as EG, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to worship famous people in the scene only because they live in a mansion and that's what that guy from LoL wanted to say...

Also, 6.76c parity is on DotA2 guys.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Evil_Geniuses#2012

Way to ignore PumA, who is probably EG's best player.

So because IdrA and inControl were acting goofy on a stream, this means they don't run their business professionalyl? What? I don't even...

Alex can say whatever he wants, but if he put EG SC2's name in his mouth over his little millionaire rant, it's because he's a fool. EG is popular for three reasons: Results, good content, American. Not because they live in a nice house in Arizona (which isn't even a millionaires house, Arizona has stupid cheap land prices...I could afford that house in AZ).
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 29 2012 17:01 GMT
#27111
SC2 drama : now in dota2 gd!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
October 29 2012 17:03 GMT
#27112
On October 30 2012 02:01 Erasme wrote:
SC2 drama : now in dota2 gd!


Eh, it's more eSports drama

I agree though, probably not the best place for this conversation.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 29 2012 17:04 GMT
#27113
On October 30 2012 01:55 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 01:51 duoform wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:33 Brainling wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:28 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On October 30 2012 01:02 duoform wrote:
On October 29 2012 23:31 teapoted wrote:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDY4MjY3MjY0.html

iG / NA / LGD team houses. At the end they get Misery and Pajkatt to say something in Chinese, it's pretty amusing.

I don't wanna create a shitstorm but this is exactly what M5.Alex Ich from LoL meant. A lot of professional players focus on having mansions and superficial millionaire bullshit and then don't win shit cought CLG.LoL/Curse.LoL/EG.Starcraft cought. You don't need to live in a millionaire mansion if you are going to practice in a small room with your teammates.

I'm glad to see Pajkatt and Misery so happy there. Hope to see action for them soonish and maybe LGD should stream a showmatch between LGD.int vs LGD.cn.


Wait, EG Starcraft is in there?

You know why they have the house they do, right? First, property in Arizona is cheap. Second, it's near where SirScoots lives, which happens to be their studio for EGMCS. Third, the house is where they do all their creative stuff and original content. They need the space for that sort of thing alone. I mean, they've had a documentary crew filming them for the last year, plus stuff like Geniuses Falling and No More Announcements. I don't know anything about CLG or Curse's LoL teams, but I doubt the situations are the same. And if Alex directly brought up EG's SC2 team as an example of this millionaire-itis, then he's completely full of shit.


It would also ignore the fact that EG players have won several tournaments in the last 12 months. Or the fact that EG has very strong, very consistent, sponsorship because they run their business like an actual business, not a college frat party.

It's called cognitive bias. People dislike EG, so they just lump them in with whatever "bad" group they want.


I just gave an example and we all know IdrA, iNcontroL and Machine don't win shit. Of course EG has people like Stephano and ThorZaIN who actually show some interest and win something... besides that tell me what "several tournaments" EG won in the last 12 months!

We are not talking about sponsors, or even business here. We are talking about winning events. You talk about "college frat party", I guess you didn't watch last week Inside of the Game because both IdrA and iNcontroL looked like 12 years old kids! I don't even dislike EG and I'm very happy to see Maelk and Fear in such a big name as EG, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to worship famous people in the scene only because they live in a mansion and that's what that guy from LoL wanted to say...

Also, 6.76c parity is on DotA2 guys.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Evil_Geniuses#2012

Way to ignore PumA, who is probably EG's best player.

So because IdrA and inControl were acting goofy on a stream, this means they don't run their business professionalyl? What? I don't even...

Alex can say whatever he wants, but if he put EG SC2's name in his mouth over his little millionaire rant, it's because he's a fool. EG is popular for three reasons: Results, good content, American. Not because they live in a nice house in Arizona (which isn't even a millionaires house, Arizona has stupid cheap land prices...I could afford that house in AZ).



Really doubt you could afford that house unless you're a well accomplished professional in a highly paid field. We already looked up houses in that same area in a previous thread. It's not a Romney level estate but even after the huge market crash the houses in that area are 450-700k.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 17:07:27
October 29 2012 17:06 GMT
#27114
No more talk about EG or the Arizona housing market pleeeeeeeeease.
It's not even an entertaining offtopic dicussion.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
October 29 2012 17:10 GMT
#27115
On October 30 2012 02:06 PassiveAce wrote:
No more talk about EG or the Arizona housing market pleeeeeeeeease.
It's not even an entertaining offtopic dicussion.

Hopefully Centaur whining stops now... but the whining will return when Xin is released. I don't think the nerfs are enough to stop him to pubstomp everyone! We shall wait!
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 29 2012 17:13 GMT
#27116
On October 30 2012 02:06 PassiveAce wrote:
No more talk about EG or the Arizona housing market pleeeeeeeeease.
It's not even an entertaining offtopic dicussion.

ok, centaur op wtf, bad teammates, omg need concede!!



Back on track.


P.S. fucking TA, scandal destroying Zero.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 29 2012 17:17 GMT
#27117
On October 30 2012 02:13 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 02:06 PassiveAce wrote:
No more talk about EG or the Arizona housing market pleeeeeeeeease.
It's not even an entertaining offtopic dicussion.

ok, centaur op wtf, bad teammates, omg need concede!!

Thanks thats much better :p
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2012 17:20 GMT
#27118
What cool Dota 1 mode would you live to see valve implement next in Dota 2?

My vote: -DM

Oh yeah, and PUT AR IN MATCHMAKING QQ
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 29 2012 17:21 GMT
#27119
I like the new mode -tt
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 29 2012 17:22 GMT
#27120
3v3 -arshomem

-ardm

-random mode (-mr?)

-tt looks cool too
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